Mailbag: Presidents Cup Reactions and Burgerdog Musings
Mailbag: Presidents Cup Reactions and...
From the living room of an A-frame house in Massachusetts, three members of the Fried Egg team—Andy, Garrett, and Will—reach into the mailbag and answer a batch of your questions. The boys cover a variety of Presidents Cup-related topics: surprises and disappointments from this past week’s event at Quail Hollow, venues they’d like to see in the future, whether they’re annoyed with Justin Thomas’s antics, and more. They wrap up with a rollicking discussion of burgerdogs, pickles, and future TFE events.
The Presidents Cup: Past, Present, and Future
Team golf is back this week with the Presidents Cup at Quail Hollow. To celebrate, Garrett and Andy take a walk down memory lane and examine the history of the event. From the split between the PGA of America and what would become the PGA Tour to the failure of other team competitions, the series of events that led to the Presidents Cup's creation is a fascinating study. The second half of the episode is dedicated to the present state and potential future of the tournament. Garrett and Andy go over what ails the event, the distractions surrounding this year's edition, and their own proposals to breathe some life into the Presidents Cup.
Ranking the 2022 Major Championships with Geoff Shackelford
Anticipation for men's major championship golf this year was sky-high. Tiger was returning to the Masters, the PGA Championship had been moved to Gil Hanse-restored Southern Hills, the U.S. Open was visiting the Country Club for the first time since 1988, and St. Andrews was hosting the 150th edition of the Open. To the delight of golf fans everywhere, the tournaments lived up to the hype. Andy Johnson welcomes Geoff Shackelford (@geoffshac), author of The Quadrilateral, a Substack newsletter dedicated to golf's majors, to relive the four biggest weeks in golf, reminisce on early- and late-round memories, and give their rankings of each major.
Is Golf Still Booming?
During the Covid-19 pandemic, recreational golf saw a major uptick. Rounds went up and equipment sales boomed. Have those boom times continued in 2022? Or has there been a regression to the mean? To take the temperature of the golf industry as a whole, Garrett speaks with Greg Nathan, the Chief Business Officer of the National Golf Foundation. Garrett and Greg discuss the nature of golf's "Covid bump," the overall health of the golf business, the future of golf course development, and more.
The Uncertain Future of the European Tour
At this past week's BMW PGA Championship, multiple players who have signed with LIV Golf aired their grievances about the direction of the DP World Tour, formerly know as the European Tour. Ian Poulter, Sergio García, and other Euro vets feel that the proud, historic tour has become a mere "feeder tour," and that DPWT CEO Keith Pelley's negotiation of a "strategic alliance" with the PGA Tour is significantly to blame. They might have a point. Andy Johnson and Garrett Morrison discuss the recent history of the European Tour, the decisions that led to its current status, how it should position itself in the new world order of professional golf, and whether it has any hope of returning to its former glory.
Denny McCarthy on Putting Prowess, LIV, and the New PGA Tour
Denny McCarthy (@_dennymccarthy) just had his most successful year ever on the PGA Tour, highlighted by a T-7 finish at the U.S. Open. He joins Andy Johnson to talk about his outlook for next season, getting hot just in time for the U.S. Open, and the recent work he put in to up his game. He also shares his thoughts on LIV Golf and the sweeping changes the PGA Tour introduced last week. Lastly, for listeners struggling with the flatstick, Denny, who has never finished worse than T-22 in Strokes Gained: Putting, talks through his process on the greens and shares a few tips.
Andy’s Scottish Adventure, Part 2: North Berwick, The Old Course, Dunbar, Kilspindie
In the second of two episodes recapping his first visit to Scotland, Andy Johnson gives Garrett Morrison his thoughts on two legendary courses—North Berwick Golf Club and the Old Course at St. Andrews—and two lesser-known gems in the East Lothian region, Dunbar Golf Club and Kilspindie Golf Club. They discuss the brilliance of North Berwick's hole designs, the uniqueness of the Old Course's terrain, the drama of Dunbar's routing, and the advantages of playing Kilspindie with hickories. Andy also offers some general advice on planning a golf trip to Scotland. (Hint: don't overbook yourself!)
Time stamps for course discussions:
(2:16) North Berwick
(37:07) The Old Course
Reviewing the PGA Tour’s Big Changes
Earlier this month, Andy Johnson and Joseph LaMagna (@JosephLaMagna) talked through the changes they'd like to see the PGA Tour make in order to compete with LIV Golf. After this week's onslaught of news and announcements about real alterations that the Tour will make to its structure, Andy welcomes Joseph back to break it all down. They discuss PIP, LIV, TMRW, and probably a few other acronyms; the effects they think the changes will have; and the importance of the Tour getting the details right as it moves into a new era.
Superintendent Series: Jeff Austin on Reviving Yale Golf Course
Our Superintendent Series is back with Jeff Austin, superintendent at Yale Golf Course (@Yale_GolfCourse). Prior to taking over at Yale, Jeff was an assistant superintendent at Augusta National, and he humors Andy with a few stories from his time there, including an interaction with a former president. Just over two years ago, Jeff took over at the Seth Raynor-designed Yale Golf Course, which had seen better days after a long Covid-related shutdown. Jeff talks about the challenges he tackled when he came aboard, explains how his workforce adds to the uniqueness of the job, and shares what they're doing to prepare for a Gil Hanse-led restoration starting at the end of 2023.
The Superintendent Series is brought to you by the Toro Company.
What’s Next in the Legal Fight Between LIV and the PGA Tour?
The courtroom phase of the conflict between LIV Golf and the PGA Tour began last week with a win for the Tour: a federal judge denied an effort by LIV players to obtain a temporary restraining order that would have allowed them to take part in the FedEx Cup Playoffs. But the legal battle between the two golf leagues is far from over. To learn more about the LIV players’ ongoing antitrust lawsuit and its prospects of success, Garrett Morrison talks to Gabe Feldman (@SportsLawGuy), a professor at Tulane University who specializes in antitrust and sports law and hosts the podcast Between the Lines. Gabe explains the legal basis of the players’ claim against the PGA Tour, assesses the case’s merits, and predicts where the litigation between LIV and the Tour might go next.
It’s Time for Chambers Bay to Get Another Major (But Can It?)
Garrett Morrison spent this past Sunday watching Japanese sensation Saki Baba become the latest U.S. Women's Amateur champion. He joins Andy Johnson to share his impressions of the course where all the action took place, Chambers Bay, and its role in future USGA championships after the controversial 2015 U.S. Open. With "anchor sites" like Pebble Beach and Pinehurst No. 2 booked into the 2050s, there's not much room for underdog courses to elbow their way in. Andy and Garrett dig into the why the USGA (and, to a slightly lesser extent, the PGA of America) have pursued this model of venue selection, the issues it's creating, and what they'd like to see change.
Bandon Deep Dives: Bandon Dunes
Our fifth and final deep dive into the 18-hole courses at Bandon Dunes is here! Since we’ve gone in reverse-chronological order, we have finally arrived at the OG, the 1999 David McLay Kidd design that launched Mike Keiser’s outpost in the Oregon dunes and changed the way everyone in the golf industry thought about the destination-resort business. Andy Johnson and Garrett Morrison talk about Keiser’s bold vision for Bandon Dunes and the collaborative—or, more accurately, combative—nature of the construction process. They then explain why they believe the original Bandon course is, by a substantial margin, the weakest 18 at the resort.
The Bandon Deep Dives are brought to you by Zero Restriction.
To Fend Off LIV, the PGA Tour Needs to Change. Here’s How.
On Monday, the PGA Tour released its 2022-23 schedule, and… well, it looks pretty much the same as this year’s schedule. That’s a problem, Joseph LaMagna (@JosephLaMagna) argues in a new article on The Fried Egg website. If the PGA Tour expects to compete with the insurgent LIV league, it needs to rethink the structure of its season and especially its playoff series. Joseph joins Andy Johnson to discuss specific ways that the Tour can adjust its schedule to become a better, more competitive product.
Andy’s Scottish Adventure, Part 1: Muirfield, Gullane, Elie
After wrapping up his first visit to Scotland a couple of weeks ago, Andy Johnson is ready to relive it with two podcasts recapping the trip. In this first installment, he and Garrett Morrison start with an in-depth discussion of Muirfield, the site of this week's AIG Women's Open. They touch on the history of the course, standout holes, and what to watch for at the tournament. Andy and Garrett then discuss the wealth of quality golf at Gullane Golf Club and an evening for the memory books at Elie.
Look for part 2—which will cover North Berwick, the Old Course, Kilspindie, and Dunbar—in the coming weeks.
Read more about Andy's lunch and afternoon round at Muirfield in his first Scotland journal.
What Saudi Arabia Really Wants Out of LIV Golf
This week, the Saudi-funded LIV Golf Invitational series is holding its third-ever tournament, LIV Bedminster, at a golf course owned by former president Donald Trump. Now there’s a sentence that our 2015 selves—even our 2020 selves—couldn’t have imagined writing. But here we are, and we need to come to grips with some complex topics. That’s why Brendan Quinn’s article “LIV Golf and the king-sized ambition behind a game on the bring,” published yesterday in The Athletic, is so valuable. It calls on the expertise of those who have been studying Saudi Arabia and its royal family for decades, and presents a clear, detailed picture of where LIV Golf came from, how it’s financed, and how it fits into the Saudi government’s plans for the future. Brendan discusses all of this and more with Garrett Morrison in this episode.
James Duncan on Working with Coore & Crenshaw and Building Brambles
James Duncan has had over 30 years of experience in golf course architecture and has worked with Tom Doak and Gil Hanse in addition to being a longtime associate with Coore & Crenshaw. He joins Andy Johnson to talk about how he got his start in the business and what brought him from his native Denmark to America. He and Andy discuss his experiences at Austin Golf Club, Hidden Creek, and the ill-fated Dos Pueblos project, and they wrap up with an update on the Brambles project outside of Napa, California, which will open in the coming months.
Takeaways from the 2022 Open Championship
Given the turmoil that has dominated men’s professional golf this year, a Rory McIlroy victory in the Open Championship at St. Andrews would have been a storybook ending to the major season. Well, too bad. Cameron Smith, as he reminded us in the process of dismantling the Old Course on Sunday, is really, really good at golf. To break down all of the action as well as the deeper storylines, Garrett Morrison speaks with Jamie Weir (@jamiecweir), golf correspondent for Sky Sports; Joseph LaMagna (@JosephLaMagna), the analytical mind behind the Finding the Edge newsletter; and The Fried Egg’s own Andy Johnson, who was on site all week in St. Andrews.
The Evolution of the Old Course
How did the Old Course at St. Andrews become what it is today? Garrett Morrison takes a break from the action at the 150th Open Championship to chat with historian Bob Crosby (@otey71) about how golf’s most famous and influential course changed—in surprisingly radical ways—during the second half of the 19th century and the first decade of the 20th. This evolution, Bob argues, has a lot to teach us about the nature of strategic course design. It also accounts for why the Old Course continues to fascinate us today.
Five Things About the 2022 Open Championship with Michael Clayton
The 150th Open Championship is almost here, so Michael Clayton (@mikeclaytongolf) joins Andy Johnson to run through five storylines to watch for this week. Tiger, Rory, and the biggest star of week, St. Andrews, are all covered. Michael also discusses which fellow Australians he hopes to see in contention and tells some stories about his experiences playing in three Opens at the Old Course. There's also some LIV chatter, but only a few minutes' worth... promise!
On My First Visit to St. Andrews…
Andy Johnson will take his maiden voyage to St. Andrews for next week's Open Championship. To prepare, he talks with a series of guests about their first visits to the Old Course. Tom Doak, James Duncan, Shane Bacon (@shanebacon), Michael Clayton (@mikeclaytongolf), Gil Hanse, and Zac Blair (@z_blair) all talk with Andy about their first impressions, what surprised them, and what they took away from their first trip to the Home of Golf.
(1:40) Tom Doak
(5:27) James Duncan
(9:04) Shane Bacon
(15:48) Michael Clayton
(22:34) Gil Hanse
(24:01) Zac Blair
We Regret to Inform You That LIV Golf’s Product Does Not Stink
This past weekend, the second event of the Saudi-backed LIV Golf Invitational series was staged at Pumpkin Ridge Golf Club outside of Portland, Oregon. The Fried Egg's own Garrett Morrison was on site, and he joins Andy Johnson to reflect on what he saw. Garrett and Andy talk about the shotgun start, the team format, player attitudes, and a variety of other topics. They also make some projections about the futures of both LIV and the PGA Tour. Warning: if you'd rather not see men's professional golf be taken over by an autocracy's reputation-laundering scheme, things are starting to look a little grim.
Read "Smashing Pumpkin," Garrett's story about the battle that broke out within Pumpkin Ridge's membership when the LIV Portland event was announced in March.
Yolk with Doak 35: All Things St. Andrews
With the 150th edition of the Open kicking off at the Old Course in a little less than two weeks, Tom Doak and Andy Johnson devote an entire episode to St. Andrews. Tom has gotten to know the course deeply over multiple decades, so he has a lot of thoughts on what first-time visitors should do and what makes the Old Course one of a kind. The bunkers, the reverse routing, and the evolution of the course are all discussed in depth. We hope this gets you excited for the final men's major of the year!
Yolk with Doak 34: Saudi Golf Issues, Cabot Highlands, and Listener Questions
In the latest installment of the Yolk with Doak, golf architect Tom Doak covers a wide range of topics with Andy Johnson. First, they spend some time examining Saudi Arabia's role in golf outside of the LIV tour, namely the kingdom's massive investment in golf course construction. Tom also provides updates on his current activities, which include the recently announced second course at Cabot Highlands, formerly known as Castle Stuart. Finally, Tom and Andy run through listener questions about the playability trend in design, changes to Tom's early projects, and the delicate balance that's required when imitating another architect's work. Look for part two of this conversation, which will focus on St. Andrews, this coming Friday.
Superintendent Series: Pete Wendt of Congressional Country Club
With the KPMG Women's PGA Championship underway, Andy Johnson welcomes Pete Wendt (@PeteWendtCCC) to the latest edition of our Superintendent Series. Pete is the Director of Golf Courses and Grounds at Congressional Country Club, which is hosting the third women's major of the year this week. The Blue Course will be showing off its new look after an extensive renovation by Andrew Green that was completed last year. Pete talks about how Green's vision became reality and which aspects of the course he's most excited to see in action at the Women's PGA. Pete and Andy also cover other topics, ranging from Pete's schedule this week to how technology might be able to ease the industry's labor shortage.
The Superintendent Series is brought to you by the Toro Company.
Takeaways from the 2022 U.S. Open
The 2022 U.S. Open at The Country Club in Brookline was an instant classic. It had all the key ingredients: a great course, a tough setup, a variety of big names in contention, a dramatic final-round duel, and a champion who sealed victory with an extraordinary shot on the 72nd hole. To discuss all of this and more, Garrett Morrison talks with four guests. First up is Nick Hardy (@NickHardy8), an up-and-coming tour pro who, at one point on Sunday afternoon, found himself two shots off the lead. Garrett then touches base with Paolo Uggetti (@PaoloUggetti), a staff writer at ESPN.com; Ryan Barath (@RDSBarath), a senior equipment editor at Golf.com; and Bradley Klein (@BradleySKlein), a journalist and golf architecture historian.
Where Did Country Clubs Come From?
The late 1800s saw the invention of an important institution: the American country club. This week’s U.S. Open venue, The Country Club in Brookline, was the first—or at least one of the first. By the beginning of the 20th century, most major cities east of Chicago had several golf-focused clubs. What were the reasons for this proliferation? And what can we learn from the origins of country-club life in America? To get some answers, Garrett Morrison talks to Richard J. (“Pete”) Moss, a retired history professor and the author of the excellent Golf and the American Country Club.
Five Things About the 2022 U.S. Open with Tron Carter
It's U.S. Open week! To give a preview of the action, Andy Johnson sits down with Tron Carter (@TronCarterNLU) and runs through five things they'll be watching for at The Country Club in Brookline. They touch on the virtues of the host city, the challenges of the course, the players who might be best prepared to take on TCC's small greens and heavy rough, the potential activities of Team Reed, and the long shadow cast by the insurgent LIV league.
The Fried Egg and No Laying Up have team members on site in Boston this week, so there will be plenty of #content to consume. For some visuals of the course, check out our preview video as well as NLU's.
Fried Egg Stories: How to Slay a Monster (The Open Doctor and His Monster, Part 3)
This episode concludes our series “The Open Doctor and His Monster,” which chronicles the origins, rise, and end of the Robert Trent Jones era in golf. Today, we tell the story of the movement that challenged Jones’s ideas and revived the reputations of Donald Ross and other golf architects of the “Golden Age.” Ultimately, this movement led to a battle of ideas at Oakland Hills Country Club, where Jones had initially established his reputation as the “Open Doctor” in 1950. Our guests in this episode are Richard Howting, Bradley Klein (@BradleySKlein), Gil Hanse, and Robert Trent Jones Jr.
Bradley Klein, Discovering Donald Ross
Geoffrey Cornish and Ron Whitten, The Golf Course
Fried Egg Stories: Ben Hogan vs. the Monster (The Open Doctor and His Monster, Part 2)
In this second installment of our documentary series “The Open Doctor and His Monster,” we focus on the 1951 U.S. Open, in which Ben Hogan did battle with Robert Trent Jones’s modern architecture at Oakland Hills Country Club. Our guests in this episode are Ed Gruver (@EdGruver), Richard Howting, James Hansen, Robert Trent Jones Jr., and Bradley Klein (@BradleySKlein).
Ed Gruver, Bringing the Monster to Its Knees: Ben Hogan, Oakland Hills, and the 1951 U.S. Open
Richard Howting, “Defining Moment: The 1951 U.S. Open”
Bradley Klein, “Forever in Tweed, Amen: Herbert Warren Wind’s contributions to golf know no word count” in The Golfer’s Journal No. 13
Fried Egg Stories: How to Make a Monster (The Open Doctor and His Monster, Part 1)
Today, we kick off a three-part documentary series called “The Open Doctor and His Monster,” in which we chronicle the Robert Trent Jones era in golf: its origins in Rochester, New York; its breakthrough moment at Oakland Hills Country Club; and its recent fall from favor. In this first installment, we tell the story of how Robert Trent Jones rose from a blue-collar background to the status of “Open Doctor”—and how, in the process, he came up with ideas that would dominate golf course design for decades.
Our guests in this episode are Robert Trent Jones Jr., James Hansen, Richard Howting, and Bradley Klein (@BradleySKlein).
James Hansen, A Difficult Par: Robert Trent Jones Sr. and the Making of Modern Golf
Bradley Klein, Discovering Donald Ross: The Architect and His Golf Courses
Chatting Pine Needles and U.S. Women’s Open with Kyle Franz
Golf architect Kyle Franz (@KyleFranzGolf) returns to the podcast to share his wealth of knowledge of Pine Needles, the site of the ongoing 2022 U.S. Women's Open. Kyle carried out a restoration of the Donald Ross course in 2017 and is on the grounds at Pine Needles this week. He chats with Andy Johnson about holes to watch for and what he learned from following Ingrid Lindblad and Annika Sörenstam during Thursday's first round. On the back half of the episode, Kyle provides an update on the busy summer he has ahead of him, which will include projects at Lookout Mountain and Cabot Citrus Farms.
A Preview of The Country Club (ft. Gil Hanse)
With the U.S. Open a little over two weeks away, we are well into the "from many, one" process. The 2022 edition will be held at The Country Club in Brookline, Massachusetts, for the first time since 1988.* Andy Johnson and Garrett Morrison talk about the deep history of professional golf at the course, the maze that is the championship routing, and the USGA’s planned setup. Gil Hanse stops by (26:45) to share insights from more than a decade of working at The Country Club, then Andy and Garrett wrap up with some holes to keep an eye on and a few critiques of the course’s weaknesses.
* A number of times in this pod, we mistakenly refer to the 1988 U.S. Open as the 1989 U.S. Open. TFE regrets the error.
Takeaways from the 2022 PGA Championship
The final two days of the 2022 PGA Championship were generally a bit of a slog. The big names were going in the wrong direction, and the rest of the leaderboard wasn't producing much excitement. But then the final hour gave us Justin Thomas's playoff win, and all was forgiven. To recap the storylines of what ended up being a fun week, Garrett Morrison talks with three guests: Brendan Quinn (@BFQuinn), sportswriter for The Athletic; The Fried Egg's own Andy Johnson; and Stephen Britton (@sbrittonturf), golf course superintendent at the Chevy Chase Club.
(3:28) Brendan Quinn
(28:44) Andy Johnson
(54:30) Stephen Britton
On-the-Ground Observations from the 2022 PGA Championship
After a day of walking around Southern Hills Country Club and watching the first round of the PGA Championship, Garrett Morrison and Meg Adkins convene in the media center (right next to KVV as he did a guest spot on The Shotgun Start!) to discuss it all. Garrett and Meg offer observations on the tournament, the course, and the fans, and they wrap up with a few things they'll be watching for over the weekend.
Five Things About the 2022 PGA Championship with Kevin Van Valkenburg
It's PGA Championship week! ESPN.com's Kevin Van Valkenburg (@kvanvalkenburg), who will be on site at Southern Hills, talks with Andy Johnson about all the major storylines heading into the second men's major of the year. From the challenges of the Perry Maxwell design to the players they think have the best chance to succeed, Andy and Kevin dive deep into all things PGA, including some suggested requirements for the club pros in the field this week.
Note: This podcast was recorded before it was announced that Phil Mickelson had withdrawn from the PGA Championship.
Reminiscing About Phil’s Win at the 2021 PGA Championship
It's Flashback Friday: Fried Egg Edition! With the 2022 PGA Championship next week, Andy Johnson and Brendan Porath join Garrett Morrison to look back Phil Mickelson's victory last year at the Ocean Course. Andy and Brendan were on site at Kiawah Island all week. They reminisce about the lead-up to the event, the excitement around the venue, and the wild Sunday finish, which included a broadcast appearance by Andy himself. The group also reflects on what's transpired for Phil since his win and how the events of the past 12 months have colored their recollections of that historic week.
Superintendent Series: Tyler Marcotte of Brambles
Today's guest on our Superintendent Series is Tyler Marcotte, the Head Superintendent at Brambles in Middletown, California. Tyler has one of the more interesting jobs in turf right now. He is currently overseeing the grow-in at Brambles, a new Coore & Crenshaw design just north of Napa Valley, and he has some unique co-workers: sheep! He shares details with Andy Johnson on how he plans to use sheep instead of mowers and what long-term benefits he hopes the sheep will bring. Tyler also provides an update on the grow-in and explains how his experiences working all over the country have aided him at Brambles.
The Superintendent Series is brought to you by the Toro Company.
Bandon Deep Dives: Pacific Dunes
With our fourth deep dive into the five 18-hole courses at Bandon Dunes, we arrive at Tom Doak’s Pacific Dunes, which opened in 2001. Andy Johnson and Garrett Morrison discuss the course’s intricate strategic puzzles; its use of the “sandy bowl,” the “gorse plain,” and a spectacular stretch of cliff-side land; its collection of short par 4s; and the way that Pacific Dunes, more than any other course at the resort, demands smart, precise golf. Tom Doak himself makes a cameo (16:30) to tell the story of how he discovered the portion of the property that would become the famous 13th hole.
The Bandon Deep Dives are brought to you by Zero Restriction.
Can Course Design Change Golf Culture?
Golf's accessibility problem isn't new, and fixing it won't happen overnight. Golf architect Christine Fraser (@cfgolfdesign) knows this, but she also believes that good course design can chip away at the issue. She talks with Garrett Morrison about how tee positions, fairway lines, maintenance practices, and even entrances into golf facilities can all be designed to encourage an inclusive culture. Christine has worked on courses all over the world, including Lahinch, Royal Birkdale, and the Toronto Golf Club, and as one of the few women in golf architecture, she offers a fresh and important perspective.
A Southern Hills Preview (ft. Gil Hanse)
The 2022 PGA Championship, which starts in three weeks, will be held at Southern Hills Country Club, a 1936 Perry Maxwell masterwork that has recently undergone a historical renovation by Hanse Golf Course Design. In this episode, Andy Johnson and Garrett Morrison talk about what makes Southern Hills an exciting major venue and chat with Gil Hanse himself about his team’s work on the course.
Superintendent Series: Justin DePippo of Bel-Air Country Club
For the latest edition of our Superintendent Series, Andy Johnson talks with Justin DePippo, the Director of Golf Course and Grounds at Bel-Air Country Club. Andy and Justin discuss Tom Doak's recent restoration of George Thomas's design at Bel-Air, the unique challenges of maintaining turf in the California canyons, the complex logistics behind golf course construction, and a variety of other topics.
The Superintendent Series is brought to you by the Toro Company.
How Golf Courses Can Conserve More Water
Happy Earth Day! As we did last year at this time, we asked Dr. Cole Thompson to come on the podcast and chat about golf's relationship with the environment. Cole is the assistant director of Green Section Research at the USGA, and he helps run the Turfgrass and Environmental Research Program. In this episode, Cole talks with Garrett Morrison about what may be the golf course industry's single biggest problem in the 21st century: water. Cole and Garrett address the optics issues around using water for recreational purposes in an era of climate change before delving into the many ways that golf courses can conserve more water and even offer H2O-related benefits to their communities.
Pasatiempo Is So, So Good
After a recent visit to Pastiempo Golf Club in Santa Cruz, California, Andy Johnson and Garrett Morrison figured it was time to dedicate a full podcast to this brilliant (and publicly accessible!) Alister MacKenzie design. From the underrated front nine to the controversial finishing holes, Andy and Garrett dig into the features that make the course a must-visit for any golfer. They wrap up their chat by turning an eye to the future and discussing their hopes and concerns regarding last week's news that Pasatiempo will undergo major rebuild of its heralded MacKenzie greens.
Justin Ray Uses Numbers to Tell the Story of the PGA Tour Season So Far
Justin Ray (@JustinRayGolf) has an unrivaled ability to present statistics and historical facts in a way that gives golf fans a better understanding of players and their performances. He and Garrett Morrison chat about Justin’s methods and his background in media before diving into the key storylines of the 2021-22 PGA Tour season so far. They explore some numbers and notes related to Scottie Scheffler’s rise, Collin Morikawa’s incredible early-career performance in majors, and Rory McIlroy’s [fire emoji] final round at the 2022 Masters. They also discuss some of the big questions they hope to see answered as the year unfolds. More of Justin's work can be found at Twenty First Group, where he is Head of Content, as well as on The Athletic and PGATour.com.
Takeaways from the 2022 Masters
Scottie Scheffler played so brilliantly at the 2022 Masters that, for much of the final round, the outcome wasn’t in doubt. But what this Masters may have lacked in competitive tension, it made up for in rich storylines. To think through some of these deeper narratives, Garrett Morrison speaks with three guests: Jaime Diaz (@JaimeDiazGC), a veteran golf writer who is currently an analyst for Golf Channel; Bob Crosby (@Otey71), a golf historian; and Joseph LaMagna (@JosephLaMagna), the analytics whiz behind the Finding the Edge newsletter.
For more reflections on the Masters from the Fried Egg team, go to our Masters hub.
(3:40) Jaime Diaz interview
(29:11) Bob Crosby interview
(49:18) Joseph LaMagna interview
Advice for Spectating at the Masters
What should I know before going to the Masters? What are the most underrated and overrated vantage points at Augusta National? How can I best appreciate the course architecture? Should I actually avoid the merch tent? If you’re planning to attend the Masters sometime in the future, these are questions you might ask yourself. To get some answers, Garrett Morrison talks with Andy Johnson, Brendan Porath, and Michael Wolf (@bamabearcat), all of whom are deeply familiar with the lay of the land at Augusta National. They give recommendations for what a first-time Masters spectator should do (and not do), and they discuss their favorite spots on the property.
For more Fried Egg Masters coverage, check out our Masters hub.
Five Things About the 2022 Masters with Shane Bacon
Masters week is here! To preview the upcoming action, Andy Johnson welcomes Shane Bacon (@shanebacon), co-host of Golf Today on Golf Channel and host of the recently revived Get a Grip podcast, to discuss the five things they're looking forward to seeing at Augusta National. From Scottie Scheffler to Justin Thomas to a potential Tiger return, Andy and Shane cover the top storylines going into the 2022 Masters.
A Rundown of the Latest Changes to Augusta National
With the Augusta National Women’s Amateur wrapping up tomorrow and the 2022 Masters approaching, Andy Johnson and Garrett Morrison sit down to discuss the latest changes to America’s most influential golf course. They touch on the tree removal along the right side of No. 11, the lengthening of No. 15, and the short-grass expansions on several holes. They also talk about which renovations they hope to see next, and how the club’s philosophy of course design and presentation may be shifting.
Read Andy’s article on the changes at Augusta National and Meg Adkins’s piece on how the format on the ANWA could be improved.
Emilia Migliaccio on Nearly Winning the ANWA—and Then Deciding Not to Turn Pro
The 2022 Augusta National Women's Amateur begins tomorrow, and who better to talk to about it than Emilia Migliaccio (@emiliamigliacc1)? Emilia played in the inaugural ANWA in 2019, finished second last year, and will be in the field again this week. She talks with Garrett Morrison about the unique aspects of the event, the different challenges of the two host courses, her strategies for negotiating Augusta National’s greens, and the lessons she learned after coming up short in a playoff last year. In addition to being an elite amateur golfer, Emilia is also an accomplished writer and a Golf Channel reporter, and she explains why she has decided to pursue a career in journalism instead of turning professional in golf.
A History of the Stymie
Today we tell the story of one of the great lost elements of match-play golf: the stymie. A stymie occurred when one player’s ball on the green ended up between the hole and the opponent’s ball. Unless the balls were within six inches of one another, the ball closer to the hole could not be lifted. The player who was away simply had to figure out what to do next. When the governing bodies eliminated the stymie in 1952, more than a curious little quirk of match play was lost, according to our guest Stephen Proctor. In a conversation with Garrett Morrison, Stephen argues that the stymie embodied a larger attitude toward the game—an attitude that fell out of favor in the mid-20th century, but one that is worth remembering, and perhaps reviving, today.
Stephen's book The Long Golden Afternoon is available for pre-order now.
Is an Equipment Rollback on the Horizon?
With last week's Distance Insights update from the USGA and R&A, it made sense to bring in Geoff Shackelford (@geoffshac) to discuss the latest developments. Geoff has been writing about and covering the distance issue in golf for over 20 years. In this episode, he chats with Andy Johnson about what's coming, how players and equipment companies will be affected, and whether bifurcation has finally arrived. Andy and Geoff also catch up on two timely topics: the Saudi-backed LIV Golf league and the Masters. You can read more of Geoff's musings in his Substack newsletter The Quadrilateral.
Mailbag: Promoting Shot-Shaping on the PGA Tour, Improving Golf Telecasts, Renovating Augusta National, and More
Andy Johnson and Garrett Morrison sit down (in person this time!) to discuss an array of listener questions. They talk about how the PGA Tour can better assess shot-shaping skills, which musical artist TPC Sawgrass resembles, how golf telecasts can improve, which golf books they would recommend, whether big-name architects are getting too busy, and what changes they would make to Augusta National’s course if they had their druthers. Many thanks to our followers on Twitter and Instagram for the questions!
Roberto Castro on the Wild 2022 Players Championship
Former PGA Tour player Roberto Castro (@cicioCASTRO) talks with Andy Johnson about the marathon that was the 2022 Players Championship. From the weather to the final putt on Monday, Roberto shares his insights into what makes the tournament so difficult to predict, how Saturday gave us a glimpse into what a rollback might look like, and what he thinks the most difficult shot on the course is. The current state of golf course development is also discussed in the back half of the episode.
In addition to hosting the Course Record Show podcast, Roberto runs his own golf consulting business, Castro Golf Consulting.
Jerry Pate on Early TPC Sawgrass and His 1982 Players Win
In February 2020, Garrett Morrison interviewed 1976 U.S. Open champion Jerry Pate about his win at the 1982 Players Championship, the first Players held at TPC Sawgrass. Jerry talked about his first impressions of the Pete Dye-designed Stadium Course, his post-victory leap into the pond next to the 18th green, and his fond memories of his friends Pete and Alice Dye. We used excerpts from Jerry and Garrett's conversation in our documentary podcast “Making TPC Sawgrass.” Since it’s now the 40th anniversary of the '82 Players, we figured it was a good time to air the interview in full.
Check out our video on the history, design, and evolution of TPC Sawgrass.
Four Things About the 2022 Players Championship with Sean Martin
It’s tradition around here to release a “Five Things About...” episode on Tuesday before a major championship. Since the Players Championship, in spite of the PGA Tour’s best efforts, isn’t quite a major, we thought “Four Things” would suffice. Andy Johnson calls up Sean Martin (@PGATourSMartin), the newly anointed king of editorial at PGATour.com, to chat about the latest happenings on tour and the most interesting storylines going into the week at TPC Sawgrass.
Let’s Not Learn the Wrong Lessons from Phil Mickelson’s Downfall
Things have been moving quickly for Phil Mickelson. After his comments about the Saudi-backed Super Golf League made headlines, he was dropped by most of his major sponsors and pilloried by both the media and his PGA Tour colleagues. The backlash was surprisingly severe, even if much of it was well deserved. Mickelson’s knowing involvement with Saudi sportswashing was indefensible. But that doesn’t mean that everything he said about the SGL was nonsense. In fact, his basic position that the PGA Tour needs to be challenged is worth taking seriously. So in this episode, Andy Johnson and Garrett Morrison discuss how competition from rival leagues could force the Tour to improve its product.
Here is Garrett’s article “Phil Mickelson and the Uses of Leverage.”
Also, check out the Fried Egg Events page on Golf Genius.
Superintendent Series: Joshua C.F. Smith of Orinda Country Club and FlagBag Golf Co.
Joshua C.F. Smith (@joshuacfsmith) has worn many hats in golf. From playing competitively in college to serving as superintendent at Orinda Country Club outside of Oakland, California, he has seen many aspects of the industry. He has also found time to become a renowned painter of golf landscapes and help found FlagBag Golf Co. (@flagbaggolf). In the latest installment of our Superintendent Series, Josh sits down with Andy Johnson to share stories about his wide-ranging career.
The Superintendent Series is brought to you by the Toro Company.
A Primer on Sportswashing in Golf (ft. Will Bardwell and Dr. Helen Lenskyj)
The Kingdom of Saudi Arabia is making major inroads in professional golf. It holds lucrative annual events, funds a 10-event series on the Asian Tour, and hopes to lure the world’s best male players to a proposed Super Golf League. Recently, the SGL initiative has taken a hit because of Phil Mickelson’s loose lips, but Saudi Arabia appears committed to its golf strategy, and it’s clear that the country is engaged in a practice known as “sportswashing.” As one of our guests, Dr. Helen Lenskyj, defines it, sportswashing involves “attempts on the part of authoritarian regimes to improve their tarnished global reputations through sport.” It is important for golf fans to understand this concept because the Saudis aren’t going anywhere.
We have two guests today: Dr. Lenskyj, an academic researcher who focuses on the relationship between sports and global politics; and Will Bardwell, a civil rights attorney and golf writer.
2:49—Will Bardwell interview, part 1
13:11—Helen Lenskyj interview
30:25—Will Bardwell interview, part 2
Will Bardwell, “Blind Men and Blood”
Helen Lenskyj, The Olympic Games: A Critical Approach
Check out The Fried Egg Events page on Golf Genius.
Bandon Deep Dives: Bandon Trails
The third of our deep dives into the five 18-hole courses at Bandon Dunes focuses on Bandon Trails, built by Bill Coore and Ben Crenshaw in 2005. Andy Johnson and Garrett Morrison talk about how the construction of Bandon Trails fit into the resort’s history, and they play an interview clip in which Coore discusses the origins of the course’s three-part identity. Andy and Garrett then launch into a wide-ranging discussion of Bandon Trails’ (many) strengths and (few) weaknesses. They cover, among other things, their favorite green-to-tee transitions, the controversy around the 14th hole, and the course’s similarities to Saving Private Ryan, The Princess Bride, and Bruce Bowen. (All of that will make sense in context, we promise.)
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Reflecting on the PGA Tour’s First Month of 2022 and Previewing Riviera with Joseph LaMagna
With the final tournament of the West Coast swing upon us, it's a good time to catch up with Joseph LaMagna (@JosephLaMagna), Fried Egg contributor and author of the biweekly newsletter Finding the Edge, about the early part of the 2022 PGA Tour season. Andy Johnson grills Joseph on who has impressed and disappointed thus far and what he makes of the very low scores we've seen almost weekly. They wrap up their chat with what to expect at Riviera later this week and the specific skill sets the course will test.
Superintendent Series: Eric Richardson of Essex County Club
In the latest edition of our Superintendent Series, Andy Johnson meets up with Eric Richardson (@erichturf), Director of Grounds at Essex County Club, at the Golf Course Superintendents Association of America (GCSAA) Conference and Trade Show in San Diego, California. Along with architect Bruce Hepner, Eric has worked to return Essex County to its Donald Ross roots. He has overseen projects such as enlarging greens, changing mowing lines, reshaping bunkers, giving the course a minimalist look and feel, and maintaining ideal playing conditions on the property's unique terrain. Andy and Eric also discover they have a similar disdain for ball washers.
The Superintendent Series is brought to you by the Toro Company.
Ben Cowan-Dewar on Founding Cabot and Becoming a Golf Course Developer
Ben Cowan-Dewar is the co-founder and CEO of Cabot, the company that developed Cabot Cape Breton and recently purchased World Woods Golf Club in Florida. Ben talks with Andy Johnson about Cabot’s first U.S.-based property, which will be rebranded as Cabot Citrus Farms. They also discuss Ben’s unconventional path to becoming a golf course developer, the early days of Cabot Links, and his experiences working with Bill Coore and other great architects.
What to Know About Perry Maxwell (ft. Chris Clouser and Colton Craig)
In the latest installment of our “What to Know About…” series on golf’s greatest architects, we focus on Perry Maxwell, the designer of many courses, including Prairie Dunes, Southern Hills, and Old Town Club. Garrett Morrison and Andy Johnson kick off the episode by talking about The Fried Egg’s upcoming event at Dornick Hills Country Club, the first course Maxwell built. We then present two conversations: one between Garrett and biographer Chris Clouser on Perry Maxwell’s life and work, and another between Andy and architect Colton Craig (@craig_colton) on Colton’s quest to play every Maxwell course in existence. Toward the end of the podcast, we return to Chris for some closing reflections on Maxwell’s architectural legacy. (Time stamps below.)
The Banker, our June 6 event at Dornick Hills in Ardmore, Oklahoma, opens for registration on Monday, February 7. For more information, visit our new events page on Golf Genius.
Check out The Midwest Associate, Chris Clouser’s biography of Perry Maxwell.
0:35—Discussion of Dornick Hills and The Banker
7:04—Chris Clouser interview
36:24—Colton Craig interview
54:05—Final thoughts with Chris Clouser
Catching Up with Bill Coore
Legendary golf course architect Bill Coore returns to the podcast for the first time in over two years. He and Andy Johnson have a lot to catch up on, and they cover a number of past and present Coore & Crenshaw projects, including Old Sandwich Golf Club, Bandon Trails, the Warren Golf Course at Notre Dame, and Brambles in Northern California. Bill shares his insights on the current boom in golf course construction and how it differs from the last upturn in the 90s and early 00s. He finishes with some reflections on what keeps him going and what he loves most about designing golf courses.
Bandon Deep Dives: Old Macdonald
In the second of their five Bandon Dunes deep dives, Andy Johnson and Garrett Morrison discuss what may be the resort’s most polarizing course: Old Macdonald, built by Tom Doak and Jim Urbina in 2009. Andy and Garrett start with a historical rundown, touching on the origins of C.B. Macdonald and Seth Raynor’s “ideal holes,” the decision to make Old Mac a tribute to those templates, and the unusual collaborative process behind the construction of the course. Then Andy and Garrett dig into the nitty-gritty of Old Mac’s design. They talk about the holes they love (and don’t quite love), and they try to figure out why this unique, brilliant course sometimes rubs people the wrong way.
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Challenging Golf Course Architecture’s Status Quo with Tim Jackson and David Kahn
While visiting Scottsdale, Arizona, Andy Johnson met up with Tim Jackson and David Kahn of Jackson Kahn Design (@JKDgolfdesign). Tim and David got their start working for Tom Fazio’s organization, founded their own firm in 2009, and went on to do striking, ambitious work at Monterey Peninsula Country Club and Scottsdale National Golf Club. In this episode, they describe their design style, share stories of working for Bob Parsons (“kaboom, baby!”), and explain how a video game helped them conceptualize the Bad Little Nine at Scottsdale National. They also have some choice words about the current state of golf course architecture as an art.
Yolk with Doak 33: Listener Questions and the State of the Industry
In this second part of his most recent conversation with Andy Johnson, Tom Doak answers more listener questions, including ones about the upcoming Sedge Valley project at Sand Valley and the non-golf literature that has influenced him. Tom and Andy also discuss how golf course architecture finds itself at a crossroads, with established architects approaching retirement just as construction has started to boom. Finally, Tom answers the hardest question in Yolk with Doak history.
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Building an Affordable Set of Used Golf Clubs with Ryan Barath
As the supply-chain crisis escalates, new golf equipment is becoming pricier and harder to get ahold of. So it might be a good time to take an interest in used clubs. Ryan Barath (@rdsbarath), lead content strategist at Tour Experience Golf, is one of the industry's most knowledgeable resources on that subject. Ryan talks with Garrett Morrison about how his golf nerdery started and how the equipment business has changed during his career. In the second half of the episode, Ryan and Garrett give their picks for two sets of used clubs: one that can be had for under $750 total, and another that consists of equipment made before 2005. This exercise allows them to delve deeper into the products, innovations, and trends that have, for better or for worse, shaped 21st-century golf.
Check out our 2022 Fried Edd events, including The Banker at Dornick Hills in Ardmore, Oklahoma.
Yolk with Doak 32: New Year’s Resolutions and Unconventional Course Concepts
In the latest edition of our interview series with golf course architect Tom Doak, Tom answers listener questions about New Year's resolutions, forward-tee placement, and accounting for climate change in his designs. He also shares with Andy a number of new concepts and projects he'd like to explore, including a modern replica of Pine Valley, a course specifically for women, and a fresh take on residential golf. Look for part two of this conversation in the coming weeks.
Superintendent Series: Devon Carroll on Women in Turf
Why aren’t there more women in the turf industry? What changes would be necessary for there to be more? Devon Carroll (@turfgirl24), a doctoral candidate in turfgrass science at the University of Tennessee, has looked deeply into these questions. Recently she has been interviewing women who hold leadership roles in turf and finding out how more women might be recruited and retained. This topic has taken on additional urgency over the past several months as workplaces everywhere, including those in golf, have struggled to find labor. Devon joins Andy Johnson to talk about her background in golf and golf course maintenance, her experiences in the male-dominated field, and the ways that the industry can improve its gender diversity.
Check out Devon’s new peer-reviewed research paper, “Women in Turf: A Qualitative Study Examining How Women Have Sustained Their Leadership Role in the Turfgrass Industry.”
Previewing the 2022 PGA Tour Season with Joseph LaMagna
Let’s be honest: the PGA Tour season doesn’t really start until the serene seascapes of Kapalua fill our TV screens in the first week of January. To prepare for the occasion, Andy Johnson calls up Joseph LaMagna (@JosephLaMagna), the sharp mind behind the Finding the Edge newsletter, to discuss what to expect from Ponte Vedra’s princes in 2022. They talk about the youth wave in men’s professional golf, the keys to Collin Morikawa’s success, and whether Rory McIlroy is “back.” Andy and Joseph finish by running through several players who are primed for breakout years and a few who could regress to the mean.
While you’re here, check out our 2022 Fried Egg events, the first batch of which opened for registration on Monday.
Fried Egg Events, Explained
For our final episode of 2021, we talk about The Fried Egg’s roster of 2022 events. First, Andy Johnson and Garrett Morrison run through some FAQs: Why do we hold these events? How do we choose the venues? What’s the format? Can I register as a single? What if I’m not a particularly competitive player? (To address the latter two questions briefly: absolutely, and it doesn’t matter.) Then Andy and Garrett have an in-depth discussion of Lawsonia Links, site of the annual Steamshovel event. Lawsonia was designed by William Langford and Theodore Moreau in 1930, and it is an important course both to Andy and to The Fried Egg. We finish up with two clips from past episodes: a portion of Andy’s interview with architect Troy Miller about Charleston Municipal Golf Course, host of the King Tide; and a conversation between Andy and Garrett about Soule Park, host of the Boomerang.
Sign-ups for the first four Fried Egg events of 2022 open on Monday, January 3! Those events: the King Tide at Charleston Muni in Charleston, South Carolina; the Boomerang at Soule Park in Ojai, California; the Steamshovel at Lawsonia Links in Green Lake, Wisconsin; and the Coup de Grâce at the Dunes Club in New Buffalo, Michigan. For details, visit our EVENTS PAGE.
Here are some time stamps in case you’d like to skip around in the episode:
(0:37) Explanation of Fried Egg events and next year’s events in particular
(24:40) Discussion of Lawsonia Links
(40:50) Interview with Troy Miller about Charleston Muni
(55:10) Discussion of Soule Park
Bandon Deep Dives: Sheep Ranch
Over the next several weeks, we plan to record deep-dive discussions for all five 18-hole courses at Bandon Dunes. First up, in reverse-chronological order: Sheep Ranch. Before it was officially part of the resort, Sheep Ranch was a free-form course on which players could choose their own routings. Its 13 greens were designed by Tom Doak and the team at Renaissance Golf Design. When owners Mike Keiser and Phil Friedman decided to incorporate Sheep Ranch into Bandon Dunes, they hired Bill Coore and Ben Crenshaw to transform it into a traditional 18-hole layout. Andy Johnson and Garrett Morrison discuss the course’s history and evolution before giving their assessment of its current design. (Spoiler: they like it.)
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Bees Can Guide Us to the Future of Golf (Seriously)
One of the most pressing issues in golf right now is the relationship between the game and the environment. As temperatures rise and water supplies dwindle, courses need to reevaluate the way they use resources and interact with their ecosystems. Sorting through these complexities is Parker Anderson’s specialty. Parker is the founder (and head beekeeper) of Greener Golf, a company that helps golf facilities quantify and improve their impact on the environment. In this episode, he talks with Garrett Morrison about the surprising benefits that a well-tended bee colony can offer a course and its surroundings. They also discuss the stigmas against the game, the potential for short courses to be ecological laboratories, and how golf can strive to be regenerative, not just sustainable.
Which U.S. Golf Courses Still Need to Be Restored?
Earlier this week, Andy Johnson wrote an article for The Fried Egg website on the great remaining restoration opportunities in American golf. It generated a lot of discussion, so Andy and Garrett decided to sit down and discuss the topic further. They go in depth on Andy’s top four restoration candidates—Augusta National, Riviera, Pebble Beach, and the Stadium Course at TPC Sawgrass—and they touch on the 12 other courses that made the list as well as a few notable ones that were left off. Andy and Garrett wrap up with some thoughts on what the future might hold for restoration and renovation in the golf course industry.
Article: America's Great Remaining Golf Course Restoration Opportunities
Superintendent Series: Ken Nice of Bandon Dunes
Ken Nice, Senior Director of Agronomy at Bandon Dunes Golf Resort, joins Andy Johnson to discuss… basketball, of all things! Once the hoops chat is over, Ken shares some stories from his experience as the assistant superintendent during the construction of David McLay-Kidd's Bandon Dunes. Ken and Andy then talk about the evolution and growth of the resort, how he's handled overseeing the unique maintenance challenges at each course, his favorite spots on the property, and how he deals with the rare snow day and a packed tee sheet.
Fried Egg Stories: The Hickory Open
For the latest installment of our audio documentary series, Garrett Morrison heads out to the Oregon coast for the 2021 U.S. Hickory Open. At this event, players must use wooden-shafted clubs either made before 1935 or faithfully based on those models. Garrett spends the day walking around Gearhart Golf Links, talking to a variety of characters, including John Henry Williams, a club repair specialist who has set up a workshop on site; Tad Moore, a renowned club builder and a co-founder of the Society of Hickory Golfers; and Colin McNamara, who is in contention to win the tournament. Garrett’s main purpose is to understand 21st-century hickory golf: where it came from, how it’s played, and why some people get absolutely hooked by it.
Season 2 of Fried Egg Stories is brought to you by Precision Pro Golf.
Dream 18: Bandon Dunes
After a six-day stint at Bandon Dunes Golf Resort, a trio of tired Eggs (@the_woke_yolk, @gfordgolf, @willknightsTFE) sit down to hash out their "Dream 18": a composite course consisting of their favorite holes from the five 18-hole courses on the property. For each hole number, they choose a winner and an honorable mention, and some lively debate ensues. This discussion should provide an accessible introduction to our upcoming deep dives into each course.
The Fried Egg’s trip to Bandon Dunes was made possible (and, at times, survivable) by Zero Restriction, makers of fine outerwear.
Yolk with Doak 31: Municipal Golf, the Renaissance Cup, and Apache Stronghold
Our series with golf architect Tom Doak continues as he and Andy Johnson catch up in Washington D.C., where they attended the National Links Trust Symposium on Municipal Golf. In addition to discussing sustainability and course maintenance in the municipal golf world, they talk about the few golf course restorations left that would interest Tom, how his design style has evolved over the years, and the origins of the Renaissance Cup. Lastly, Apache Stronghold Golf Club, a course of Tom’s that hasn't been mentioned much in the Yolk with Doak series, gets some overdue attention.
What to Know About George C. Thomas Jr. (ft. Geoff Shackelford)
George C. Thomas Jr. is the golf architect behind Riviera Country Club, Bel Air Country Club, the North Course at Los Angeles Country Club, and the classic 1927 book Golf Architecture in America. To learn more about Thomas, Andy Johnson sits down with Geoff Shackelford (@geoffshac), who is the author not only of the Substack newsletter The Quadrilateral but also the book The Captain: George C. Thomas Jr. and His Golf Architecture. Geoff and Andy discuss various aspects of Thomas’s compelling albeit short life, including his diverse hobbies, contributions to Pine Valley, partnership with Billy Bell, and ever-evolving design style.
Trevor Immelman on the Presidents Cup, Ernie Els, and What It Takes to Win on Today’s PGA Tour
Trevor Immelman is the 2008 Masters champion, a TV analyst, and the incoming captain of the International Presidents Cup squad. In this episode, he chats with Andy Johnson about what it takes to be a winner on the PGA Tour today, his experience as an assistant captain at the 2019 Presidents Cup, and how things are looking for the International team going into 2022. Trevor also looks back at the beginning of his golf career in South Africa and the role Ernie Els played as a mentor-turned-competitor.
Superintendent Series: Ryan Tuxhorn of Somerset Hills Country Club
Ryan Tuxhorn (@r_tuxhorn) joins Andy Johnson for the latest edition of our Superintendent Series. Ryan went straight from college to working as an intern and making his way through the ranks at Merion Golf Club. He shares how his experiences there shaped his philosophies on everything from course maintenance to green speeds, and prepared him for his job as superintendent at Somerset Hills Country Club, where he has been for the past 13 years. He and Andy discuss the restoration work at Somerset Hills, how his approach has changed over the years, and his budding maple syrup business, which keeps him busy through the long New Jersey winters.
The Superintendent Series is brought to you by the Toro Company.
What to Know About William Flynn (ft. Wayne Morrison)
Wayne Morrison is the author of The Nature Faker, a monumental biography of William Flynn. It’s safe to say that no one on earth knows more about Flynn, the architect behind Shinnecock Hills and many other great courses. In this episode (which is the first of a few we have planned on specific architects), Wayne goes in depth with Andy Johnson on Flynn's life and work during the Golden Age of golf course design. Wayne talks about how he became interested in Flynn and how his massive book came together. He and Andy also touch on Flynn's involvement with many courses that have stood the test of time, including not only Shinnecock but also Pine Valley, Merion East, Cherry Hills, Rolling Green, Lancaster, and Indian Creek. You can order your own copy of The Nature Faker by emailing Wayne at email@example.com.
A Keiser-Backed Renovation in Madison, the Doak Internship, and Women in Golf Course Design with Sara Mess
Sara Mess joins Garrett Morrison to discuss her involvement in the Glenway Golf Park renovation in Madison, Wisconsin. This unique project, spearheaded by Michael Keiser and his wife Jocelyn, will both revive the Glenway course and engage the Madison community in a number of creative ways. Sara also discusses her time working at Renaissance Golf Design, her collaboration with Tom Doak on his recent books, and her insights on how access and inclusivity (and proper tee placement!) can help create more diversity in both golf and the field of golf course architecture.
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A Pair of Golden-Age Munis: George Wright and Swope Memorial
Andy Johnson’s recent travels have taken him to two municipal golf courses with A-1 architectural pedigrees: Donald Ross’s George Wright Golf Course near Boston, Massachusetts; and A.W. Tillinghast’s Swope Memorial Golf Course in Kansas City, Missouri. In this episode, Andy sits down with Garrett Morrison to reflect on what makes these courses special. They discuss Ross’s clever drainage methods at George Wright and Tillinghast’s adventurous use of hilly land at Swope Memorial. They also debate whether the restoration trend in the golf course industry, which has primarily affected private clubs so far, will soon filter down to municipal facilities.
Vince India Talks Life on the Korn Ferry Tour and Getting Through Q-School
Korn Ferry Tour player Vince India (@vince_india) catches up with Andy Johnson and discusses the grind that is the Second Stage of Q-School. Vince has made it through every level of Q-School for six years running. He shares some of his favorite stories and explains how his mindset going into qualifying has changed over the years. Andy and Vince also discuss the rising importance of physical conditioning in pro golf and how to actually improve your weaknesses.
Superintendent Series: Rodney Hine of Boston Golf Club
Rodney Hine got his start in the turf industry as an assistant superintendent at Winged Foot Golf Club. He then moved into golf course design, serving as the grow-in superintendent at Tom Doak's Stonewall and eventually as a designer and agronomist for Hanse Golf Course Design. After helping Gil Hanse build Boston Golf Club in 2003, Rodney decided to stay on as the course's first superintendent, and he has been there ever since. In this installment of our Superintendent Series, he and Andy Johnson chat about Rodney's fascinating career, the quirky challenges of BGC, the importance of varied plant life on a golf course, and more.
The Superintendent Series is brought to you by the Toro Company.
Three Big Takeaways from the Ryder Cup
This past weekend, Team USA won the Ryder Cup in dominant fashion, beating the European side 19-9. To get a handle on what this victory means, Garrett Morrison called up three different people—Ben Coley of Sporting Life, Joseph LaMagna of the Finding the Edge newsletter, and Shane Ryan of Golf Digest—and asked each for one big takeaway from the action at Whistling Straits.
Five Things About the Ryder Cup with Lawrence Donegan
Lawrence Donegan (@lawrencedonegan) is a longtime golf journalist who has worked for The Scotsman and The Guardian. He co-founded the excellent McKellar Magazine and hosts the McKellar Golf Podcast. With the 2020 (not a typo) Ryder Cup approaching, Lawrence joins Andy Johnson to share five things to watch for at Whistling Straits. They discuss Steve Stricker’s uninspired start to his week-of captaincy, the reasons behind Team USA’s chronic underperformance, the looming succession drama on the European side, and more.
Thoughts on the Design of Whistling Straits
To get ready for this week’s Ryder Cup, Andy Johnson and Garrett Morrison chat about the design of host venue Whistling Straits. Andy recently shot the Straits Course for a new Fried Egg video, so Garrett asks for his thoughts on Pete Dye’s routing, par-3 concepts, and outrageous shaping. They also discuss the PGA of America’s hefty build-outs, the reasons behind Andy’s hatred of catch basins, and the simple pleasure of gazing at a big ol’ lake all day.
Mike Whan, the USGA‘s New CEO, on the Future of Golf
After a well-regarded run as LPGA commissioner, Mike Whan started two months ago as the CEO of the USGA. Earlier this week, he sat down with Andy Johnson at Chicago Golf Club to discuss a variety of topics. They cover Whan's thinking about the USGA's priorities, championship host selection, and the potential of bringing the U.S. Open back to Chicago and the Midwest. Whan also weighs in on the hottest topic of the day: the distance increases golf has seen over the past few decades, and the USGA's role in securing the future health of the game.
Mapmaking with Don Placek
In this wide-ranging conversation, Don Placek, Partner at Renaissance Golf Design, and Andy Johnson cover the complexity and challenges of the golf architecture consulting business, compare finding new golf courses to discovering new music, and discuss Don’s passion for drawing, maps, and art in general. Don shares how his passions and talents outside of golf improve Renaissance Golf Design’s work and how his routing maps help visualize the 3D world for their clients.
Affordable Golf as a Family Business
Located in Northern Lower Michigan, Champion Hill Golf Course and Pinecroft Golf Course are both within a 30-minute drive of the world-famous Arcadia Bluffs and Crystal Downs. Champion Hill and Pinecroft are public, affordable, well-designed, and—here's the key—owned and operated by one family. Is this the ideal business model for affordable golf? Andy Johnson and Garrett Morrison address that question in this episode, but first they spend some time chatting about the Solheim Cup, which took place at Inverness Club this past weekend. After Andy and Garrett finish up, they throw it to a conversation Andy recently had with Lee Stone, the owner of Champion Hill and Pinecroft, and Jim Cole, the longtime superintendent of both courses.
How Everyone Misunderstands Team Match Play
Team match play is the most entertaining format in golf, but we might not understand it very well. What factors should team captains consider when pairing players up for foursomes and four-ball? How much does a player's past match-play record matter? In alternate shot, how should teammates decide who tees off on which holes? Joseph LaMagna (@JosephLaMagna) believes that the conventional answers to these questions rely on faulty reasoning. Joseph runs Optimal Approach Golf, which advises PGA Tour pros on strategy, and writes an excellent newsletter called Finding the Edge. In this episode, he and Garrett Morrison dig into the intricacies of team match play and the tactics that Team USA and Team Europe should use in the upcoming Solheim Cup and Ryder Cup.
Superintendent Series: Jordan Caplan on Belvedere and Golf in Michigan
Belvedere Golf Club superintendent Jordan Caplan joins the podcast to talk about the Willie Watson course and his role as the club's fourth superintendent in its almost 100-year history. Jordan and Andy Johnson discuss the challenges of course maintenance in harsh Northern Lower Michigan winters and the differences between the Belvedere job and Jordan’s past work at Philadelphia Cricket Club. They also chat about trends in golf architecture vs. building architecture, the abundance of quality golf in Michigan, and how to get your kids interested in the game. The Superintendent Series is brought to you by the Toro Company.
Andrew Green on Restoring (and Renovating) Inverness Club
Andrew Green is one of the busiest golf architects in the business. He recently completed a restoration of Oak Hill's East Course and a renovation of Congressional's Blue Course, and he's currently doing work at Scioto, Wannamoisett, and Interlachen. Andrew's best-known project to date may be his bold 2017 restoration of Inverness Club, a 1919 Donald Ross design that has hosted six major championships. Next week, Inverness will appear on your TV as the host of the Solheim Cup, so Garrett Morrison figured it was a good time to call Andrew up and chat about Inverness's strengths, its complicated architectural history, Andrew's approach to balancing restoration with renovation, and his affection for a well-executed chocolate drop.
Superintendent Series: Nick Nate on St. Andrews and South Bend
Nick Nate, superintendent at South Bend Country Club, talks with Andy Johnson about his career in turf, which has taken him from his hometown in South Bend, Indiana, to the Old Course and back home again. They discuss Nick's start in the business at Warren Golf Course when it first opened, the perks of his internship at St. Andrews and his stint in Scotland, prepping Medinah Country Club for the 2006 PGA Championship, and the challenges and rewards of bringing South Bend CC back to its George O'Neil roots. Nick also shares his Notre Dame gameday tips and predictions for the upcoming college football season. The Superintendent Series is brought to you by the Toro Company.
Fried Egg Stories: Bobby Clampett and His Golfing Machine
Today, Homer Kelley's 1969 book The Golfing Machine is a standard text for those who study the science of the golf swing. Famous instructors cite it, as do tour pros like Bryson DeChambeau and Steve Elkington. But in 1982, The Golfing Machine was most associated with 23-year-old Bobby Clampett, who had been schooled in Kelley's system. Clampett had compiled a stellar amateur résumé, and after two rounds of the '82 Open Championship, he led by five shots. He was on the verge of validating what he had once told a reporter about The Golfing Machine: "It's the Bible of golf."
In this edition of our audio documentary series, we tell the story of Homer Kelley, Bobby Clampett, and their quest to prove that science could solve the mysteries of the game.
The second season of Fried Egg Stories is brought to you by Precision Pro Golf (coupon code: FriedEgg20). This episode was produced by Garrett Morrison and mixed by Cameron Hurdus.
Olympic Golf Is Great (But Could Be Better)
The men's and women's golf competitions at the Olympic Games took place over the past couple of weeks, with Xander Schauffele and Nelly Korda earning gold medals for the United States. The action from Tokyo was fun to watch, but we couldn't help but wonder if it could be even more exciting. So Andy Johnson called up Kevin Van Valkenburg (@KVanValkenburg), a senior writer for ESPN, and talked with him about what Olympic golf gets right and what it could do better. They also commiserate about the Chicago Bears' quarterback woes, if you're into that kind of thing. Make sure to check out Kevin's outstanding piece on taking his daughter to see Simone Biles at the Olympic gymnastics trials.
What to Know About Golf in Japan
With the golf competitions underway at the Tokyo Olympics, Garrett Morrison sits down with Michael Wolf (@bamabearcat) to learn more about Japan's distinctive golf culture. Michael is a golf architecture and history nut who has traveled and played golf extensively in Japan. He and Garrett talk about the customs of Japanese golf clubs, Michael's techniques for traveling within the country, and the top courses he has played there, including Olympic host Kasumigaseki Country Club. They also discuss the historical origins of golf in Japan and the flowering of Golden Age architecture in the country that resulted from Charles Hugh Alison's visit in the early 1930s.
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Yolk with Doak 30: What’s Happening at the Lido and Dornick Hills
In the latest installment of our interview series with Tom Doak, Tom gives an update on the progress at the Lido, the Keiser family’s latest course near Sand Valley. He and Andy discuss the pros and cons of the technology used to build the course, and they speculate on how it might be used in future restoration projects and in golf course architecture in general. They also chat about Tom’s ongoing work at Perry Maxwell's Dornick Hills Golf and Country Club in Ardmore, Oklahoma.
Yolk with Doak 29: The Opening of St. Patrick’s and the Making of Pacific Dunes
The Yolk with Doak returns! In the first of two new episodes of our interview series with golf architect Tom Doak, we cover the recent grand opening of St. Patrick's Links at the Rosapenna Hotel & Golf Resort in Ireland. Tom and Andy chat about where the course would land on the Doak Scale and the unique challenge of finishing the project during a global pandemic. They also discuss Tom's new book, The Making of Pacific Dunes, which is available for purchase at doakgolf.com.
Five Things About the Open Championship with Jaime Diaz
Golf Channel's Jaime Diaz joins Andy to discuss this week's Open Championship at Royal St. George's. Jaime has over 30 years of experience in golf journalism, and he shares his favorite memories from the Open and how writing about it differs from covering it for TV. He and Andy also talk about Bryson, Rory, Rahm, and other players hoping to lift the Claret Jug on Sunday.
The Battle over Royal St. George’s
When Royal St. George's Golf Club, the host of the upcoming Open Championship, opened in the late 1880s, it looked a lot different than it does today. The earliest iteration of the course embodied the Victorian principles of its designer, Laidlaw Purves. Over the next few decades, those principles—and Royal St. George's itself—came under fire from a new school of golf writers and architects. Historian Bob Crosby joins Garrett Morrison to discuss this debate and its far-reaching consequences.
Superintendent Series: Brendan Byrne on Llanerch Country Club, The 1999 Ryder Cup at Brookline and Philadelphia Sports and Cheesesteaks
Brendan Byrne, superintendent and co-general manager at Llanerch Country Club in Havertown, PA, chats with Andy about his 20+ year career in golf from starting out at Rolling Green Golf Club to overseeing the recent restoration at Llanerch. He shares stories from his unique experience at the 1999 Ryder Cup, offers his expertise on managing staffs, and provides insight on how the golf industry has changed over the years. He and Andy also cover the Philly sports scene and opinions on the best cheesesteaks in the area.
Shane Ryan on His New Ryder Cup Project and the State of Golf Media
Shane Ryan is a contributor for GolfDigest.com and the author of Slaying the Tiger, an account of the 2014 PGA Tour season. He sits down with Garrett Morrison to talk about the KPMG Women's PGA Championship, which he covered last week; his new book project and podcast series on the Ryder Cup; and how the golf world has changed since he went out on tour in 2014. They also touch on the current discourse around athletes' mental-health struggles, the reasons Team Europe kicks Team USA's butt in three out of every four Ryder Cups, and the decline of traditional golf journalism.
2021 U.S. Open Recap with Shane Bacon
Shane Bacon, co-host of Golf Today and the Get a Grip podcast, joins Andy for a recap of the U.S. Open at Torrey Pines. The two discuss Jon Rahm's breakthrough major win, Bryson's claim of not caring about his 44 on the final nine, and the bizarre series of events on the 13th hole on Sunday. They also chat about what they're looking forward to at the upcoming Open Championship and Olympic Games.
Stretching Routines and Host Family Stories with the PGA Championship’s Breakout Club Pro
PGA professional Brad Marek joins Andy to discuss his great run at last month's PGA Championship. Brad played for years on the mini tours before becoming a well-regarded teaching pro at Corica Park in the Bay Area. In this episode, he and Andy delve into that transition. They also talk about everything from Brad's brush with stretching-themed social media fame to his experience at the Ocean Course at Kiawah Island.
Five Things About the U.S. Open with Geoff Ogilvy
You probably know that Geoff Ogilvy won the 2006 U.S. Open at Winged Foot. What you may have forgotten is that he also contended for the 2008 edition at Torrey Pines. In fact, at one point on Sunday, he was tied with eventual winner Tiger Woods. Now, 13 years later, the U.S. Open returns to the South Course at Torrey Pines, and Geoff joins Andy to preview the tournament. They run through five things that Andy will be watching for, and they also discuss Phil Mickelson's surprising win at Kiawah Island, Geoff's equally surprising affection for Torrey Pines South, and—of course—the mysteries of hang-gliding.
Superintendent Series: Rich McIntosh on Torrey Pines, the U.S. Open, and Funny Farmers Insurance Open Incidents
Rich McIntosh, superintendent of the South Course at Torrey Pines, joins Andy to discuss how preparations are going for the 2021 U.S. Open. Rich has an incredibly difficult job: taking one of the busiest municipal courses in the world and getting it ready for a national open. But it's not just a grind; Rich talks a lot in this episode about what he loves about preparing for big championships. He and Andy also touch on the recent renovation work at Torrey Pines, what to expect from the facility in the future, and some fun stories from the annual Farmers Insurance Open.
Mike Clayton on Phil’s Win, World Tours, and the U.S. Women’s Open
Time for a supersized episode! Last week, Andy called up Mike Clayton—former tour pro, current golf architect, and general voice of reason—to talk about Phil Mickelson’s victory at the PGA Championship, ideas for a world golf tour, and Mike’s upcoming project on Seven Mile Beach in New South Wales. They also previewed the U.S. Women’s Open, which was contested at the Olympic Club this past weekend. To follow up on that part of conversation, the Fried Egg boys (Andy, Garrett, and Will) got together to chat about their takeaways from Yuko Saso’s win and Lexi Thompson’s collapse.
Fried Egg Stories: The Qualifier
On April 26, 73 players arrived at Half Moon Bay Golf Links with hopes of qualifying for the 2021 U.S. Women’s Open at Olympic Club. One of them was Juli Inkster, Hall of Famer and seven-time major champion. Now 60 years old, Inkster was paired with two teenagers who hadn’t been born when she last won a major. Also in the qualifier field was Lucy Li, who in 2014 became the youngest player ever to qualify for the U.S. Women’s Open. In this edition of Fried Egg Stories, we follow all four contestants through a 36-hole day at Half Moon Bay. Who, in the end, will be the qualifier? This episode is brought to you by the U.S. Women’s Open.
Five Things about the PGA Championship with Kyle Porter
Kyle Porter, golf writer for CBS and co-host of the First Cut podcast, joins Andy Johnson to preview this week's PGA Championship at Kiawah Island. Kyle and Andy each run through five things they'll be paying attention to as the action gets underway at the Ocean Course. They speculate on who will thrive at the difficult Pete Dye design and why so many top players don't seem to be in particularly good form.
Superintendent Series: Jeff Stone on Preparing the Ocean Course for the PGA Championship
Jeff Stone has worked for the Kiawah Island Golf Resort since before the Ocean Course was built, and he has been the golf course superintendent at the Ocean Course since 2003. For this edition of the Superintendent Series, Jeff takes some time out of his hectic schedule to chat with Andy Johnson about getting the course ready for this week's PGA Championship. They discuss the differences between resort and championship conditions, the Ocean Course's transition from Bermudagrass to Paspalum, Jeff's memories of Pete Dye, and whether it's ever snowed on Kiawah Island.
The Superintendent Series is brought to you by the Toro Company.
Fried Egg Stories: Making the Ocean Course
In September 1989, a devastating hurricane hit South Carolina. Directly in its path was Kiawah Island, where Pete Dye had just begun to build a new golf course. And this wasn't just any course: in two years, it was supposed to host the Ryder Cup. To kick off the second season of Fried Egg Stories, we dig into drama behind the making of the Ocean Course at Kiawah Island, host of next week's PGA Championship. Fried Egg Stories is produced by Garrett Morrison, co-hosted by Andy Johnson, and mixed and engineered by J Vierck. Thanks to Meg Adkins for transcript help, and to Troy Miller for connecting us with interviewees for this story. This episode—indeed, this entire season—of Fried Egg Stories is made possible by Precision Pro Golf.
What’s New About the Ocean Course for the 2021 PGA Championship
Golf architect Scot Sherman joins Andy Johnson to discuss recent renovation work at the Ocean Course at Kiawah Island for the 2021 PGA Championship. Scot talks about how being at the Ocean Course has brought his career full circle, and he explains some of the magic behind Pete Dye's design. He and Andy then dig into another recent project: along with Davis Love III and Mark Love, Scot completed an ambitious renovation of the municipal Belmont Golf Course in Richmond, Virginia. The work included a restoration of 12 of A.W. Tillinghast's original holes and a new six-hole short course and driving range for the First Tee of Richmond.
Two Championship Golf Courses in California (and a Lovely Muni)
Last week, the Fried Egg team went on a whirlwind tour of California, and in this episode Andy and Garrett break down the highlights. First they discuss Soule Park, host of the Fried Egg's Boomerang event and one of the best public courses on the West Coast. They then talk about two storied championship venues that you'll soon see on TV: San Francisco's Olympic Club and San Diego's Torrey Pines, upcoming sites of the U.S. Women's Open and the U.S. Open, respectively. Andy and Garrett dig into the undeniable strengths of these courses as well as their substantial weaknesses.
Golfers and Environmentalists Are Not Enemies
A common knock on golf courses is that they're bad for the environment. But that's an over-simplified view—and in some cases, a flat-out incorrect one. With Earth Day coming up, we thought it was time to sort through these issues with an expert, so Garrett Morrison sat down with Dr. Cole Thompson, the Assistant Director of Green Section Research at the USGA. In this episode, Garrett and Cole dig into current USGA-funded research on golf course sustainability, address a few popular criticisms of golf's ecological impact, and discuss how golf courses can become more environmentally beneficial and sustainable.
Reviewing Hideki’s Masters Win with the U.S. Media’s Leading Hideki Expert
For the past decade, Sean Martin, senior editor at PGA Tour dot com, has been covering Hideki Matsuyama's career with more depth and nuance than any other golf writer. So who better than him to sit down with Andy Johnson and review Matsuyama's triumph at the 2021 Masters? Sean and Andy discuss the action down the stretch at Augusta National; Hideki's backstory, personality, potential, and relationship with the press; and the story behind Sean's appreciation of the new Masters champion's game.
Five Things about the Masters with Shane Bacon
Golf Channel host Shane Bacon joins Andy Johnson to discuss the upcoming Masters Tournament. Shane and Andy each run through five things they're looking forward to seeing at Augusta National this week. They touch on Jordan Spieth's reemergence, Rory McIlroy's struggles, and the predictive power of name length, among other topics. On most weeks, you can catch Shane on Golf Today, the Golf Channel show he co-hosts with Damon Hack, and Get a Grip, his podcast with PGA Tour pro Max Homa. This week, you can watch Shane not only on Golf Channel's Live from the Masters broadcast but also on Masters.com coverage of the tournament.
The Lost Masters with Curt Sampson
When the world is in disarray, what, if anything, is the role of professional sports? Specifically, what's the role of the Masters, a tournament that has always felt like an escape from everyday life? To explore those questions, Garrett Morrison talks with Curt Sampson, the author of several books on golf history. Garrett and Curt focus on the 1968 Masters, which took place at a time—like 2020—when society seemed to be unraveling. Ultimately, that edition of the tournament failed to provide the comfort many fans sought.Reading material: Curt's Golf Digest essay on the town of Augusta during the 2020 Masters; The Lost Masters: Grace and Disgrace in '68; and The Masters: Golf, Money, and Power Augusta, Georgia
Jim Wagner on Contours, Cavemen, and Hanse Golf Course Design’s Latest Projects
Jim Wagner is the longtime design partner at Hanse Golf Course Design and the head of the firm’s Caveman Construction crew. With the design-build approach on the rise in golf course architecture, Jim’s on-the-ground knowledge is more relevant than ever. He took some time away from an in-progress build at Jonathan’s Landing in Florida to chat with Andy Johnson about working with contractors, mentoring shapers, crafting contours, and staying hands-on as the Hanse name gets bigger. They also touch on new projects at PGA Frisco and West Palm Beach.
Superintendent Series: Jim Huntoon on Mowing Lines and Myrtle Beach
Jim Huntoon is the Golf Course Superintendent at the Heritage Club in the Myrtle Beach area and a contributor to the Carolinas Golf Course Superintendents Association. For this installment of our Superintendent Series, Jim speaks with Andy Johnson about finding creativity in his daily routine, the impact of the pandemic on his operation, his memories of Mike Strantz, the best spots (for golf and other activities) in the Myrtle Beach area.
The Superintendent Series is brought to you by the Toro Company.
An Insider’s View of Golf Course Rankings
For many people, golf course rankings published by major magazines provide an introduction to golf course architecture. They communicate the basic notion that some courses might (or should) be considered "greater" than others. Since 1996, Jonathan Cummings has served on one of the panels responsible for those rankings. Last year, he gathered up his tremendous knowledge about the rating process and published it in the form of a book, The Rating Game. He and Garrett Morrison discuss the book, the different approaches taken by the magazines to the rankings, and whether the entire course rating industry has done more harm than good.
Jonathan Cummings, The Rating Game
How Your Personality Shapes Your Golf Game
Kiel Alderink is a PGA Professional and one of Golf Digest's top instructors under the age of 40. Along with mental coach John Weir, he founded Mental Golf Type, a company that uses personality psychology to help golfers practice and play better. Kiel also happens to be Andy Johnson's longtime golf coach. In this episode, Kiel and Andy discuss the underrated influence of personality type on teaching and performance in golf. They also talk about that time Andy hit it so far left at the U.S. Mid Am that a bus tried to pick them up. Check out Kiel's work at mentalgolftype.com.
Fried Egg Stories (Rerelease): Alligator Pit – The Making of TPC Sawgrass
Programming note: We first released this episode on Thursday, March 12, 2020. That evening, the Players Championship was canceled in response to the Covid-19 pandemic. So with the 2021 Players approaching, we thought we'd give this story another chance.
In this installment of our audio documentary series, we detail how PGA Tour Commissioner Deane Beman and golf course architect Pete Dye turned an alligator-infested swamp in Ponte Vedra Beach into a new kind of tournament venue. We also tell the story of the pros' first encounter with TPC Sawgrass at the 1982 Players Championship. This episode features interviews with Deane Beman, Jerry Pate, Vernon Kelly, Tom Doak, Sean Martin, and Adam Schupak.
A Way Forward for Municipal Golf
Today we wrap up our deep dive into Andy Johnson's visit to North and South Carolina with a hybrid episode. The first half is devoted to a conversation that Andy had with Troy Miller at Charleston Municipal Golf Course. Troy recently completed a Seth Raynor-inspired renovation of Charleston Muni. After that interview, Andy and Garrett Morrison return to finish their chat about the courses Andy saw in the Carolinas. They talk not only about courses like Charleston Muni and Asheville Muni, but more generally about municipal golf in America and how it might find a way forward in the 21st century.
Tony Jacklin on the Ryder Cup, the Yips, and the Concession (Golf Club)
In collaboration with Jack Nicklaus, English golf legend Tony Jacklin designed the Concession Golf Club, which will host the WGC-Workday Championship this week. Ahead of that event, Jacklin joined Andy Johnson to discuss his long, decorated career. They talk about his tenure as Ryder Cup captain, his relationships with Seve Ballesteros and other European stars, his triumphs at the 1969 Open and 1970 U.S. Open, and his eventual battles with exhaustion and nerves.
Episode 205: Geoff Ogilvy – Instruction, Reed, Potential Rollback, and mixed events
Geoff Ogilvy is back! He joins Andy to talk about he recent golf news, including the USGA’s potential adjustments to equipments standards and Patrick Reed’s rules incident at Torrey Pines. They also chat about the new Players Series events in Australia, which are mixed tournaments in which male and female pros as well as amateurs play for the same prize money. Geoff hosted one recently, and he discusses the concept's potential long-term impact on the game.
Episode 204: John Houck – Disc Golf Architecture
Disc golf has a lot in common with golf. It's usually played over nine or 18 holes; there are tees and targets; there are drives, approaches, and putts; and scores are often calculated according to par. But Fried Egg listeners will be particularly interested to know that disc golf, like "ball golf," has its own history, style, and philosophy of course design. To find out more about disc golf architecture, Garrett talks with John Houck, the leading architect in the sport. They discuss Houck's approach to design, his thoughts on naturalness and strategy, and his hopes for the future of his craft.
Episode 203: Thomas Pagel – USGA Distance Insights Project
Thomas Pagel, the USGA's senior managing director of governance, joins Andy to discuss the USGA and R&A’s latest announcement regarding their years-long Distance Insights Project. Last year the governing bodies released a major Distance Insights Report, and last week they provided an update on new research topics and proposed changes to equipment standards. These efforts have garnered headlines and driven debate in the golf world about the possibility of "rolling back" equipment. Pagel takes Andy through the ins and outs of the USGA's most recent announcement and what it means for the future of golf.
Episode 202: Andy’s Carolina Trip, Part 1 – Kiawah
Garrett and Andy sit down to discuss Andy's recent trip through the Carolinas. In this first part of their conversation, they open with some thoughts on the events and content projects The Fried Egg has on the schedule for 2021. Then they delve deeply into Pete Dye's Ocean Course at Kiawah Island. They talk about the chaotic origins of the course, its spectacular debut at the 1991 Ryder Cup, and how its architecture holds up today. There are also some digressions into Webb Simpson's recent comments on course design and Mike Strantz's place in the lineage of provocative golf architecture, among other topics. Oh, and make sure to visit The Fried Egg Pro Shop: https://proshop.thefriedegg.com/.
Episode 201: Zac Blair, The Tree Farm
Zac Blair makes his long awaited return to the podcast to discuss the latest news on his golf course project in Aiken, SC, The Tree Farm. Zac discusses his decision to hire Tom Doak and Kye Goalby as well as the membership structure and much more at the Tree Farm.
Yolk with Doak, Episode 28: The Lido Club
Tom Doak joins to discuss his latest project, rebuilding the Lido Club near the Sand Valley Golf Resort. Andy and Tom discuss the history of the great Lido course, the challenges rebuilding it will present and how they are planning to recreate the historic course.
Episode 200: Sean Martin – 2021 PGA Tour Preview
Sean Martin, Senior Editor at PGA Tour dot com, joins Andy to discuss the 2021 PGA Tour season. Both Sean and Andy identify five things they will be watching for this year. They talk about the youth wave on tour, Dustin Johnson, Justin Thomas, and much more.
Superintendent Series, Episode 14: Bob Ranum
The Long Island legend Bob Ranum joins the podcast to talk about his career in golf course maintenance. Bob discusses his two superintendent jobs at Garden City Golf Club and Atlantic Golf Club. Topics include helping to restore Garden City with Tom Doak, building a course with Rees Jones, and hanging out with Mike Strantz.
Yolk with Doak, Episode 27: Tom’s 2020 American Road Trip
Tom Doak joins the podcast to discuss more his recent road trip across the United States. Among his travels, Tom visited two upcoming projects, Dornick Hills and Sandpiper GC. He and Andy also discuss how beauty impacts a hole's reputation, memorable Superintendents, and much more.
Superintendent Series, Episode 13: Preparing for the 2020 U.S. Women’s Open
Chris Ortmeier, Director of Agronomy at Champions Golf Club, and Darin Bevard, Director of Championship Agronomy for the USGA, join Andy to discuss this week's U.S. Women's Open. Chris and Darin detail the unique challenges associated with the December date of this year's tournament. They also describe the two 18-hole courses at host venue Champions Golf Club and talk about what viewers can expect. The Superintendent Series is brought to you by the Toro Company.
Yolk with Doak, Episode 26: Houston Open Redux
In the latest installment of our series with the golf course architect Tom Doak, he talks about his month-long road trip across America. One of his most prominent stops came at the PGA Tour's 2020 Houston Open at Memorial Park, a municipal course he recently redesigned. Tom reflects on what he learned from watching some of the world's best players tackle his work.
Episode 199: Mike Young
Golf course architect and owner Mike Young joins Andy to talk about his career in golf. Mike discusses getting his start in golf turf equipment sales and making the leap into design and eventually ownership at the Fields Golf Club in Georgia. He and Andy delve into how golf is changing and how Mike has adapted at his courses.
Episode 198: Data Golf
Data Golf, founded by brothers Matt and Will Courchene, is on a mission to make sense of the piles of data coming out of professional golf today. In this episode, Garrett Morrison speaks with Matt about how advanced statistics might help us understand golf course design in a different way. Check out Matt and Will's website at datagolf.com. Brought to you by The Fried Egg Pro Shop.
Episode 197: Geoff Ogilvy – 2020 Masters
Geoff Ogilvy joins Andy to break down the 2020 Masters. Geoff tells some stories about playing with this year's champion Dustin Johnson and discusses DJ's great mental approach to golf. The conversation also touches on the excellent play from several members of the 2019 Presidents Cup Team, and on the reasons why Rory McIlroy might struggle getting out of the gate at major championships.
Fried Egg Stories, Episode 11: Always Greener – The American Pursuit of Perfect Turf
Even in November, Augusta National looks flawless. But why is it that we get so excited about green, uniform grass? In this edition of our audio documentary series, we dig into the backstory of America’s obsession with perfect turf. Our guests are Russ Myers, Ted Steinberg, George Waters, Derek Duncan, and John Jeffreys.
Produced and hosted by Garrett Morrison.
Engineered by J Vierck.
Transcript assistance from Jay Fischl.
Music by Blue Dot Sessions.
Episode 196: Geoff Ogilvy – All 18 at Augusta National
Before the last year's Masters, we released a two-part discussion with Geoff Ogilvy about Augusta National Golf Club. Here, we present a condensed, one-episode version of that conversation. Andy and Geoff cover every hole at the course, delving into the details of the design as well as the strategies used by Masters contestants.
Episode 194: Lukas Michel – 2020 Masters Prep and playing America’s best golf courses
2019 U.S. Mid Am Champion Lukas Michel joins the podcast to discuss his preparations for the Masters as well as his travels in the U.S. since the U.S. Amateur. Lukas details his work on Mike DeVries' restoration crew at Bloomfield Hills and the great golf he has played all over the country. Lukas last appeared on The Fried Egg Podcast after his U.S. Mid Am win in Episode 155.
Episode 194: Luke Reese – One for the Memory Banks
Author Luke Reese joins the podcast to talk about his new book One for the Memory Banks. Luke reflects on his experiences learning the game late in life as an American in Scotland and the friendships he made along the way. One for the Memory Banks can be purchased using the following link and will include a $10 donation to the National Links Trust: https://www.thememorybanks.com/TheFriedEgg.
Superintendent Series, Episode 12: Josh Mahar – Wild Horse GC
Wild Horse Golf Club Superintendent Josh Mahar joins the podcast to discuss his involvement from the beginning of world class golf in the Nebraska Sand Hills. Josh was a part of the grow in team at both Sand Hills and Wild Horse two of the country’s finest golf courses. He talks about the experience of growing in these courses and his life in turf. The Superintendent Series is brought to you by Toro.
School of Golf Architecture, Part 5 (2): Routing with Jeff Mingay
This is the second part of Garrett’s discussion with golf architect Jeff Mingay (@jeff_mingay) about how golfers can “read” the routing of a course. Having laid out the shared traits of good routings, they dig into a few famous examples. They also tackle a couple of big questions: How have routing practices changed over time? And does the future hold any new possibilities?
School of Golf Architecture, Part 5 (1): Routing with Jeff Mingay
Routing is perhaps the most important step in designing a golf course, but it’s a difficult concept for non-architects to understand. How can a regular golfer “read” the routing of a course that has already been built? Garrett explores this question with golf architect Jeff Mingay (@jeff_mingay) for the fifth edition of the School of Golf Architecture. In the first of two episodes, Garrett and Jeff discuss the basic elements of effective golf course routing—elements that any golfer can recognize during a round.
Episode 193: Jaeger Kovich – Aronimink Golf Club
Golf architect Jaeger Kovich joins the podcast to recall his time as a shaper for Hanse Golf Course Design during the firm's 2016 restoration of Aronimink Golf Club. This week, Aronimink plays host to the KPMG Women's PGA Championship.
Superintendent Series, Episode 11: Stephen Britton
Stephen Britton, Superintendent at Chevy Chase Country Club joins the podcast this week. He discusses his beginnings at Royal Melbourne and how it spurned an eventual move to America, his time working for TPC Potomac and hosting PGA Tour events, and what it was like to work at Wimbledon.
Episode 192: Geoff Ogilvy – 2020 U.S. Open Recap
Geoff Ogilvy joins Andy to breakdown the 2020 U.S. Open. The pair focus in on the setup of Winged Foot and how it amplified DeChambeau’s talents while also discussing the future of golf given Bryson’s style of play. Geoff also talks about Sandy Links, the municipal course he grew up playing, its recent renovation.
Fried Egg Stories, Episode 10: The Test – Hale Irwin at Winged Foot
The 1974 U.S. Open, better known as the "Massacre at Winged Foot," has become a touchstone in the debate over what a golf championship should be. Depending on your perspective, it's either the U.S. Open at its best or the U.S. Open at its worst. With the national championship returning to Winged Foot this week, we ask what it means for a tournament venue to be insanely difficult. Our guests for this episode are Hale Irwin, Neil Regan, Mark Mulvoy, and Jeremy Schaap, reading from his father's classic book about the tournament.Brought to you by the U.S. Open Victory Club.
Produced and hosted by Garrett Morrison.
Edited and engineered by J Vierck.
Transcript assistance from Jay Fischl.
Music by Blue Dot Sessions.
Episode 191: John Bodenhamer – 2020 U.S. Open Setup
John Bodenhamer, USGA Senior Managing Director, Championships, joins the pod this week to discuss all things U.S. Open! Andy and John work through this week’s setup, differences we’ll notice between this event and the ‘06 U.S. Open, managing championships without fans, and close the conversation with a few thoughts on the USGA’s new anchor site.
Episode 190: Geoff Ogilvy – Winged Foot, the U.S. Open, and the FedEx Cup
Geoff Ogilvy, winner of the last U.S. Open contested at Winged Foot, joins the podcast to preview the 2020 U.S. Open. Andy and Geoff start by discussing the FedEx Cup Finals and Geoff's thoughts on the format. Then they delve into Geoff's winning effort in 2006 and his predictions for the 2020 edition.
Fried Egg Stories, Episode 9: Jackie Robinson the Golfer
In 1947, Jackie Robinson became the first Black man to play Major League Baseball in the 20th century. You're probably familiar with that story. What you may not know is that the baseball diamond was not the only playing field where Robinson advocated for racial equality. He also did so on the golf course. In this edition of our audio documentary series, we tell the complicated, sad, even inconvenient story of Jackie Robinson the golfer.
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Produced and hosted by Garrett Morrison. Edited and engineered by J Vierck. Production assistance from Jay Fischl. Music by Blue Dot Sessions.
Episode 189: Neil Regan – Winged Foot history
Neil Regan, Winged Foot Golf Club's historian, sits down with Andy to discuss Winged Foot's rich history, from Babe Ruth's exploits at the club to Monty's struggles on the 18th hole in 2006. Regan was extensively involved in Hanse Golf Course Design's recent restoration of the course, and he tells Andy about the thinking behind the green expansions.
Episode 188: Stewart Hagestad – 2020 U.S. Amateur and Bandon Dunes
One hundred and seventy-nine episodes after his first appearance, Stewart Hagestad rejoins The Fried Egg Podcast to discuss his run to the quarterfinals at the U.S. Amateur last week. Andy and Stewart talk not only about the tournament but also about how Bandon Dunes compares to other competitive venues, how match play contrasts with stroke play, their favorite amateur events, and the upcoming U.S. Open, which Stewart is preparing for right now.
Episode 187: PGA Championship Reflections – TPC Harding Park and the “Mega Muni” Model
After an exciting PGA Championship, Andy and Garrett get together to discuss how TPC Harding Park fared in its major championship debut. They contemplate both virtues and flaws of its design, routing, and setup, and they compare it to Winged Foot, the host of the upcoming U.S. Open. Also, they get into some broader trends in municipal golf, specifically the contrast between "mega munis" and "mini munis" that Garrett explored in a recent article for The Fried Egg website.
Fried Egg Stories, Episode 8: Golf and the City – Harding Park
In this edition of our audio documentary series, we tell the story of Harding Park, a course that has, at different points in its history, represented both the best and the worst of municipal golf. This week, it hosts the 2020 PGA Championship, but just 22 years ago, it served as a parking lot for the 1998 U.S. Open. We talk to Bo Links, Ron Kroichick, Sean Elsbernd, Joe Shasky, and Sasha Perigo about these highs and lows, and also about the benefits and drawbacks of city golf in general.
Produced and hosted by Garrett Morrison.
Edited and engineered by J Vierck.
Music by Blue Dot Sessions.
Episode 186: Geoff Ogilvy – Bryson’s transformation, the 2020 PGA, and the young guns
Geoff Ogilvy returns to catch up with Andy Johnson about the latest happenings on the PGA Tour and to discuss the upcoming PGA Championship. Geoff talks about his fascination with the golf swing, which grew during the quarantine, and what he thinks the keys will be at Harding Park.
Superintendent Series, Episode 10: Tony Nysse
Tony Nysse, the Director of Golf Course and Grounds at Mountain Lake, joins the podcast to discuss his affinity for golf course architecture and his career in the turf industry. Tony's many stories include giving architectural advice to a developer while in college, interning at Friar's Head, and restoring Old Marsh.
Episode 185: Kerry Haigh
Kerry Haigh, the Chief Championships Officer of the PGA of America, joins Andy to discuss next week's PGA Championship at Harding Park. The conversation centers on Kerry's approach to setting up major championship golf.
Yolk with Doak, Episode 25: Is Donald Ross overrated? Lost Dunes and favorite Scottish holes
In the latest talk with Tom, we dive into a number of listener questions. Tom talks about whether or not Donald Ross is overrated and some of the greens at Lost Dunes. The conversation wraps up with Tom choosing which par 3, 4 and 5 from Scotland he would have in his backyard.
Yolk with Doak, Episode 24: St. Andrews Beach, Covid-19, and East Potomac
In the second part of his recent conversation with Andy, Tom Doak explains why St. Andrews Beach—a design of his outside of Melbourne, Australia—is one of his favorite courses in the world. Later, he and Andy discuss the impact of Covid-19 on the design business and the golf world in general, and how this moment compares to 9/11 and the financial crisis of 2008. The episode wraps up with a discussion of the potential of East Potomac Golf Course in Washington, D.C., which Tom is set to restore.
Yolk with Doak, Episode 23: Getting to 18, Pacific Dunes, and the original Sheep Ranch
Tom Doak is back! The lead architect at Renaissance Golf Design joins Andy to talk about his latest book project, Getting to 18. They discuss the writing process, a few excerpts from the book, the story of how Tom met Bill Coore, and the secrets behind the routings of Pacific Dunes and the original Sheep Ranch. To purchase Getting to 18, a limited-edition book, visit doakgolf.com .
Fried Egg Stories: The Ball, Part 3 – Better
This is the third and final episode of our miniseries on the design, history, and impact of the golf ball. It explores how advanced plastics made their way into the modern, solid-core ball, bringing the promise of “better things for better living through chemistry” to the game.
Guests: Harry Brown, Joe Henley, Mark O’Meara, and Dean Snell.
Music by Blue Dot Sessions.
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Fried Egg Stories: The Ball, Part 2 – Wound
This is the second episode of our miniseries on the design, history, and impact of the golf ball. It recounts the advent of the wound ball—the Haskell—and the ensuing debate over the future of the game.
Guests: Bob Crosby and Brett Cyrgalis.
Music by Blue Dot Sessions.
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Fried Egg Stories: The Ball, Part 1 – Gutty
This is the first episode of our miniseries on the design, history, and impact of the golf ball. It focuses on the invention of the gutta percha ball and the surprising backstory of gutta percha itself.
Guests: Harry Brown, Stephen Proctor, and Helen Godfrey.
Music by Blue Dot Sessions.
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Episode 184: Curtis Strange
Hall of Famer Curtis Strange joins Andy Johnson to discuss his storied career as well as recent events on the PGA Tour. Curtis tells Andy about his closing eagle to win the NCAA Championship, his back-to-back U.S. Open wins, and his near-miss at the 1985 Masters. The conversation also touches on the rise of a beefed-up Bryson DeChambeau and the recent split between Fox Sports, where Curtis was an analyst, and the USGA.
Superintendent Series, Episode 9: Aaron McMaster
Aaron McMaster, the Superintendent at Orchard Lake Country Club, joins Andy to talk turf. They discuss the ins and outs of making agronomic changes to a golf course before diving into the story of Orchard Lake’s renovation by Keith Foster.
Episode 183: Michael McCartin and Will Smith of National Links Trust
Last week, the National Park Service announced that it would begin negotiations with National Links Trust to operate three municipal golf courses in Washington, D.C. A non-profit founded by Michael McCartin and Will Smith, NLT has partnered with architects Tom Doak, Gil Hanse, and Beau Welling in hopes of renovating the East Potomac, Rock Creek Park, and Langston golf properties. Andy speaks with Mike and Will about this exciting development in a story that The Fried Egg has been tracking since last year. Among other topics, they discuss the RFP process, the NLT’s visions for the courses, the importance of compelling municipal golf architecture, and the role that D.C. golf facilities can play as community gathering spots and agents for social change.
Yolk with Doak, Episode 22: Confidential Guide and the Maha Project
In the latest edition of the Yolk with Doak, Tom discusses the ideology behind the Confidential Guide, randomness in design, and a unique new project near Napa Valley he is working on.
School of Golf Architecture, Part 4: Collaboration
n this edition of our audio introduction to golf course design, Garrett speaks with architect Andy Staples (@buildsmartrgolf) about collaboration on construction projects. They discuss how Andy works with owners, contractors, and shapers; what “design-build” means and how people often misunderstand it; and whether architects get too much credit. For more on these topics, check out the post for this episode on The Fried Egg website.
Superintendent Series, Episode 8: Steve Cook
Steve Cook, the Director of Grounds at Medinah Country Club, joins the podcast. Andy and Steve talk about his long career, including his time in France and his experience prepping courses for major championships. They also discuss Steve’s management style, which has helped produce a number of up-and-coming leaders in the turf industry today.
Episode 182: John Bodenhamer – USGA Senior Managing Director, Championships
John Bodenhamer, the USGA's Senior Managing Director, Championships joins Andy Johnson on the podcast. The two talk about John's golf background and his time on some of the great early 80s BYU teams before diving into championship setup. The discussion finishes with a conversation about 2020's USGA Championships and how they will go about filling the fields without qualifying.
Episode 181: Stephen Proctor on challenge matches
As an appetizer for the upcoming Tiger-Phil (plus Manning and Brady) match, Andy and Garrett speak with golf historian Stephen Proctor about the history of challenge matches. They discuss the importance of rowdy, big-money matches to early golf culture in Scotland, the eventual ascendancy of stroke play as the dominant competitive format, and the ways that today's televised matches might recapture some of the magic of the past. Stephen is the author of Monarch of the Green, a biography of Young Tom Morris.
Episode 180: Nathaniel Crosby
2019 and 2021 Walker Cup Captain Nathaniel Crosby joins the podcast to talk about last week’s match at Seminole, his days on the European Tour and looks ahead to the next Walker Cup.
Yolk with Doak, Episode 21: Linksland, Mike Strantz, and environmentalism
This episode of the Yolk with Doak features the final part of the conversation Andy and Tom had this past January in Traverse City, Michigan. They discuss a variety of topics, including the challenges of building on linskland, Mike Strantz, Woking Golf Club, stymies, and how golf might mesh with environmentalism.
Episode 179: Seminole Golf Club with Bill Coore and Zac Blair
On Sunday, May 17, four of the best golfers in the world will take on one of the best courses in the world. Rory McIlroy, Dustin Johnson, Rickie Fowler, and Matthew Wolff are set to play in TaylorMade Driving Relief, a televised charity skins match at Seminole Golf Club in Juno Beach, Florida. The rarely publicized Seminole is known as one of Donald Ross's most subtle and brilliant designs. To understand the course better, Andy talks to architect Bill Coore, who along with Ben Crenshaw restored Seminole in 2017, and PGA Tour pro Zac Blair, who has played the course several times in the annual Seminole Pro-Member.
Episode 178: Brian Schneider
Renaissance Golf Senior Associate Brian Schneider joins Andy to talk golf course architecture. The discussion starts with Brian's work at North Jersey C.C. a Walter Travis design and ranges from above ground features at Llanarch to Augusta National to Langford & Moreau's bold shaping. Follow Brian on Twitter @bschneider126 and Instagram @bschneidergolf.
Superintendent Series, Episode 7: Rich Shilling
Rich Shilling, superintendent of Jeffersonville Golf Course, joins the podcast. Andy and Rich discuss Jeffersonville’s improvement during his time there and the unique challenges of upgrading a course while continuing to allow public play. They also talk about his future plans and how the municipality approaches budgeting for renovations.
School of Golf Architecture, Part 3 – Tie-Ins with Riley Johns
In the third installment of our serialized introduction to golf course design, we explore how architects and shapers make courses feel at home in their surroundings. Specifically, we discuss tie-ins, the features that connect the manmade landforms of a golf hole to the preexisting surroundings. To learn more about this subtle art, Garrett speaks with Riley Johns (@IntegrativeGolf), one of the architects behind the Winter Park Nine and the new short course at Forest Dunes. After listening to the episode, check out the accompanying post on The Fried Egg website.
Episode 177: Christina Kim
LPGA player Christina Kim joins the program this week. She discusses the importance of individuality, the Ladies European Tour vs. the LPGA, her quick rise as a junior player, her favorite courses around the world, and much more!
The Fried Egg Podcast, Episode 176: Joel Dahmen
PGA Tour player Joel Dahmen takes time out of his Arizona quarantine to join Andy Johnson this week. The two talk about Mario Kart, qualifying for the U.S. Open after a trip to the bar, playing with big-name players, and just what he is doing during all this time off.
Yolk with Doak – Episode 20: Sedge Valley, drivable par 4s and the evolution of restoration projects
Tom Doak returns to the podcast to discuss a variety of podcasts with Andy Johnson. The pair talk through topography maps, his first impressions of greens books, drivable par 4s, the evolution of restoration projects, and a quick update on his new project at Sand Valley. They also get Tom’s opinions on some listener questions.
School of Golf Architecture, Part 2 – Linksland with George Waters
The second part of our serialized introduction to course design profiles the first and most influential golf architect: the linksland. Coastal dunescapes gave the sport its first fields of play as well as its founding ethos. To learn more about how terrain has shaped the game, Garrett talks to George Waters (@gwatersgolf), the Manager of Green Section Education for the USGA and the author of the book Sand and Golf. Make sure to check out the accompanying post on The Fried Egg website; there you will find additional resources on the topic and outtakes from the interview with George.
Superintendent Series – Episode 6: Josh Lewis
Sharon Heights Golf and Country Club's Superintendent Josh Lewis joins the podcast. Andy and Josh talk about the impact COVID-19 has on the turf industry and get into Josh's many experiences in turf including Josh's early days at Coos Bay and Bandon Dunes as well as Pasatiempo, Chambers Bay and Sharon Heights. Follow Josh on Twitter @theturfyoda.
Episode 175: Geoff Shackelford – COVID-19 and golf
Geoff Shackelford joins Andy to discuss the whirlwind of coronavirus news and the likely short- and long-term effects of the pandemic in golf.
Fried Egg Stories, Episode 4 – Alligator Pit: The Making of TPC Sawgrass
In this installment of our audio documentary series, we go back to a time when the PGA Tour operated out of a four-bedroom home in Ponte Vedra Beach. Not far from that home was a flat expanse of swampy jungle. We tell the story of how commissioner Deane Beman and architect Pete Dye turned that land into a new kind of golf venue—and how the pros reacted when they competed on it for the first time. This episode features interviews with Beman, U.S. Open and Players champion Jerry Pate, architect Tom Doak, TPC Sawgrass project manager Vernon Kelly, and journalists Adam Schupak and Sean Martin. It includes music from Assaf Ayalon, Avi Goldfinger, Maya Johanna, Ian Post, and Swirling Ship (artlist.io), as well as from Kevin McLeod (incompetench.filmmusic.io).Sean Martin, “Leap of faith: Behind the Stadium Course’s wild debut at the 1982 Players Championship”Adam Schupak, Golf’s Driving Force (
Episode 174: Michael Keiser Jr.
Michael Keiser Jr., the Managing Partner at Dream Golf, joins the podcast. The Keiser family and Dream Golf have been behind some of today's premier resorts, including Bandon, Sand Valley, and Cabot. Michael and Andy discuss working outside of golf, the failed Bandon Muni project, collaborating with some of today's greatest golf course architects, pushing the boundaries of an industry, and more.
School of Golf Architecture, Part 1 – Place with Blake Conant
Welcome to School of Golf Architecture, The Fried Egg’s serialized introduction to golf course design. In this first installment, Garrett digs into the notion of place. He speaks with architect and builder Blake Conant about “place-based design” and the various ways in which a golf course can cultivate a strong sense of place. Toward the end of the discussion, Blake leads Garrett to a realization about the importance of building and preserving unique places in the modern world.
Episode 173: Nick Mackay – The business side of professional golf
Current Georgia State University Assistant Golf Coach and former Golf Agent Nick Mackay joins Andy to talk about his years as a golf agent. The two discuss what Nick looks for in young players, the intricacies of the business side of professional golf from sponsorship deals to costs of trying to "make it". The pair finish with a discussion on Patrick Reed's antics and the PGL.
Superintendent Series – Episode 4: Roger Null
Renowned golf course superintendent and architect Roger Null joins Andy for the latest installment in our Superintendent Series, brought to you by The Toro Company. Roger has nearly a half century of experience in the golf business, serving as a superintendent at Cedar Rapids CC and Old Warson CC, a design consultant at many courses in the Midwest, and even a general manager at Boone Valley GC. He is also an accomplished amateur player, with three GCSAA National Championships to his name (though Andy suspects the actual number is higher). Roger and Andy talk about how Roger got his start as a greenskeeper, what has changed in course maintenance in the past few decades, the difficulty of growing grass in St. Louis, how his work as an architect influenced his approach as a superintendent, and many other topics.
Yolk with Doak – Episode 19: Pete Dye, Bandon vs. Scotland, and ways to make money as a golf architect
Our series with golf architect Tom Doak continues with another segment of Andy and Tom’s recent conversation in Traverse City, Michigan. They begin with a series of listener questions, covering topics like green-to-tee transitions, golf culture in Africa, the pros and cons of Bandon Dunes and Scotland as golf destinations, Tom’s ongoing links project in Ireland, his growing interesting in the business side of golf development, and the importance of not pretending every new thing is the best thing ever. A discussion of common misinterpretations of well-known golf architects leads to an extended reflection on Pete Dye. They talk about how Tom would split 10 rounds at Dye-designed courses, the Dye family’s willingness to share knowledge and help Tom jump-start his career, and Pete Dye’s influential insistence on studying a variety of far-flung courses.
Episode 172: Barrett Stover – Golf Fitness
Revolution Sports Performance Founder Barrett Stover joins Andy to discuss golf fitness. The two talk about the common misconceptions and easy ways golfers can stay more active and improve their golf games.
Episode 171: Mike DeVries – Designing affordable golf, Maxwell and MacKenzie, and working on difficult sites
For the first time since Episode 46, golf course architect Mike DeVries joins Andy on the podcast. DeVries was introduced to the game at Crystal Downs Golf Club in Michigan, and he worked for Tom Doak and Tom Fazio before starting his own design business. His best-known work is Cape Wickham Links on King Island in Tasmania, but he has also built several excellent, affordable public courses in his home state of Michigan. Mike and Andy discuss two of his accessible designs in the Grand Rapids area, Diamond Springs and The Mines, before speaking more broadly about the dual influences of Perry Maxwell and Alister MacKenzie, the joys of walking, and the challenges of routing courses on severe sites, such as the one where Mike’s stunning Greywalls course sits.
Fried Egg Stories, Episode 3 – Hello Milwaukee: Tiger’s Pro Debut
The latest edition of our audio documentary series focuses on Tiger Woods’s first tournament as a professional, the 1996 Greater Milwaukee Open. But this isn’t a story about what happened on the course. Instead, we dig into the action in the press room, in front of the cameras, and during commercial breaks. It was in those spaces that the public image of Tiger, the myth of him as a professional golfer, began to be invented. And not everything went smoothly at first. This episode features interviews with two-time U.S. Open champion Curtis Strange, Wieden+Kennedy ad man Jim Riswold, GMO tournament director Tom Strong, and journalists Jaime Diaz and Gary D’Amato. It includes music from Tristan Barton, Sebastian Borromeo, D Fine Us, Kevin Graham, Kloyd, and Ian Post (artlist.io), as well as from Kevin McLeod (incompetech.filmmusic.io). Check out our sponsor, Visit Milwaukee, at visitmilwaukee.org/golf.
The Fried Egg Podcast: Superintendent Series – Episode 4: Edric Funk and Matthew Wharton
At the GCSAA Golf Industry Show in Orlando, Andy recorded a live episode with The Toro Company’s Edric Funk (@EdricFunk) and Carolina Golf Club superintendent Matthew Wharton (@CGCGreenkeeper). The trio discussed the process behind innovation, the role of #TurfTwitter, the future of labor in the turfgrass industry, and the advent of robotics and automation in greenkeeping. Big thanks to our sponsor Toro for making the Superintendent Series possible
Episode 170: Geoff Shackelford – The Distance Insights report and the Premier Golf League
Lately, the biggest news in the golf world has revolved around topics that Golf Channel contributor Geoff Shackelford knows better than anyone. So Andy met up Geoff to get his thoughts on the bombshell USGA/R&A Distance Insights report, which represents a major shift in the governing bodies' rhetoric about golf's distance problem. They also discuss the emergence of the Premier Golf League as a potential disruptor in professional golf. Geoff broke this story two weeks ago on his blog geoffshackelford.com and continues to report on fresh revelations about the proposed world tour.
Yolk with Doak – Episode 18: Templates, an upcoming book on routing, modern green speeds
The Yolk with Doak, our series with golf architect Tom Doak, returns with Andy visiting Tom in Traverse City, Michigan, and sitting down for a wide-ranging conversation. In this first installment, they field a variety of reader questions. Among other things, they talk about how Tom uses (or resists over-using) template concepts in his work, how his book project on routing has led him to reassess some of his past courses, whether we should look to state golf associations as potential champions of affordable and interesting courses, and how modern green speeds have changed the way we design greens and play the game.
Episode 169: Brad Faxon
During his long playing career, Brad Faxon won eight PGA Tour events, participated in two Ryder Cups, and became known as one of the best putters in golf history. Currently he serves as an analyst for Fox Sports’ USGA telecasts and a putting consultant to tour pros. Brad joined Andy at the PGA Show to discuss the art of the interview, the mental and emotional dimensions of golf, the importance of good architecture at tournament courses, and Brad’s memories of growing up in Rhode Island and learning about Golden Age design.
Episode 168: Billy Draddy
At the PGA Show, Andy sits down with Billy Draddy, the creative director at Summit Golf Brands and founder of B. Draddy. They chat about Billy’s youthful days as a caddie at Winged Foot and Brookline before getting into his background in the clothing business. They cover his failures and success, the links between garment and golf course design, the challenges of pushing an against-the-grain product, and the wonders of alpacas.
Episode 167: Bill Coore – Pete Dye, Sheep Ranch, and underappreciated holes
For the first time since May 2018, we welcome Bill Coore back to the podcast. Andy and Bill discuss the lack of sand bunkers and the tight, intricate routing at Sheep Ranch, Coore & Crenshaw's upcoming course at Bandon Dunes Golf Resort. In addition, they talk about the late Pete Dye, Bill's mentor, and Bill's own Dye-like willingness to hire associates who have little to no golf experience. Andy and Bill cover various other topics, including the recent removal of Trinity Forest, a Coore & Crenshaw design, from the PGA Tour rota; what Bill learned from watching the pros at his recently renovated Plantation Course at Kapalua; and his thoughts on some of golf's most under-appreciated holes.
Episode 166: A Tribute to Pete Dye
In honor of the great golf architect Pete Dye, who passed away last week, Andy and Garrett play and discuss several clips from past podcast episodes in which the guests discussed their experiences with Dye. Anecdotes include how Dye’s work inspired Bill Coore to get into golf course design, how Tom Doak’s experience on Dye’s construction crew caused him to turn down an offer from Robert Trent Jones, and how an aerial photo of PGA West changed the direction of Brian Silva’s career. Also featured is a segment from a yet-to-be-released podcast with Kohler Co. (Blackwolf Run, Whistling Straits) Director of Grounds Mike Lee.
Episode 165: The Oldest Golf Course in Wisconsin Eagle Springs
Mike Bolan the owner of the Eagle Springs Golf Resort, the oldest golf course in Wisconsin joins Andy on the podcast. Andy and Mike talk about the golf course and its history and how Mike's family has owned the course since 1893. Mike opens up about the difficulties of ownership in today's golf landscape and how he has gone about keeping Eagle Springs afloat over the years.
Episode 164: Geoff Ogilvy – President’s Cup, Royal Melbourne and the new decade
Geoff Ogilvy joins Andy to talk about his experience being an Assistant Captain at the 2019 President's Cup. The two talk about the competition and how the brilliance of Royal Melbourne. Geoff talks about why Royal Melbourne stood out from the typical Tour stop and why it allowed the best players to elevate their games. Beyond the President's Cup Geoff tells the story of his recent walk-off hole in one and Andy and Geoff talk talk about the next decade of golf and make some predictions.
Superintendent Series – Episode 3: Michael Vessely
Culver Military Academy Superintendent Michael Vessely joins Andy on the podcast. Michael and Andy start by talking about Michael's recent old tee box discoveries on the property and the historical deep dive its led. Michael then talks about how his perspective on maintenance has changed as he has understood architecture more. The conversation then moves to Michael's career and the journey to Culver and the benefits and challenges of the job. The pair wraps up talking about Michael's future plans and how he enjoys the experimental aspect of the job. Follow Michael on Twitter @mdvessely
Fried Egg Stories, Episode 2: The Doctor Goes Down Under
The second installment of our new audio documentary series digs into the history behind the venue of this week's Presidents Cup, Royal Melbourne Golf Club. This Australian gem exists in its current form because, in 1926, the famous British architect Dr. Alister MacKenzie decided to sail across the world and spend two and a half months down under. During his visit, he not only drew up plans for the West Course at Royal Melbourne but also consulted at many golf clubs throughout Australia. His apparent influence on golf in the country was enormous. So the question we ask in this episode is, essentially, how in the world did MacKenzie do all of that in 10 weeks? Or are we all giving him too much credit?Many thanks to Mike Clayton (@mikeclaytongolf), Mike Cocking (@OCMGolf), Neil Crafter (golfstrategies.com.au), and Sean Tully (@tullfescue) for contributing to this story. This episode features music from Kevin McLeod (incompetech.filmmusic.io) as well as Low Light and Borrtex (artlist.io).
Fried Egg Stories, Episode 1: Meghan MacLaren – Q-School and Women’s Golf
Something new on The Fried Egg podcast today! This episode has a documentary format. That is, rather than the usual interview, it takes the form of a story, with voice-overs from Garrett Morrison and excerpts from a conversation with Ladies European Tour player Meghan MacLaren. Think Revisionist History, but without the golf hatred. This is not a permanent format change, obviously—just a new direction we’re exploring.This past year, Meg MacLaren won the Women’s New South Wales Open and placed fifth on the LET Order of Merit, but she's still looking for a way onto the LPGA Tour. In October, she came to the U.S. for LPGA Qualifying School, which culminated with the two-week, 144-hole Q-Series at Pinehurst Resort. This episode tells the story of Meg’s Q-School experience. It also explores her thoughts about Harry Potter, blogging (which she does very well at megmaclaren.com), and the state of the women’s game.
This episode was created and hosted by Garrett Morrison and edited by J Vierck. It features music from Kevin MacLeod, Yehezkel Raz, Borrtex, and Oak and Cherry.
Episode 163: Keith Rhebb
Golf course architect Keith Rhebb joins Andy at Winter Park for a chat about his recent work. The two start by discussing the continued success of Winter Park, which was slammed on an early Thursday afternoon. The conversation moves to some of Keith and Riley Johns' new work, their short course at Forest Dunes as well as the continued restoration efforts at Rolling Green. Keith also opens up to how it is to juggle his growing independent design business with his shaping work at Coore & Crenshaw as well as what he learned about Bill Coore from his time at Old Town.
Superintendent Series – Episode 2: Tom Feller
Cedar Rapids Country Club Superintendent Tom Feller joins Andy to discuss his life in turf. Tom and Andy start by talking about his morning routines which include no breakfast and regular walks of the golf course. The conversation then moves to how Tom got into turf and his early career in Myrtle Beach and Quincy, Illinois. Cedar Rapids C.C.'s transformation has been well-documented and Tom has had a big hand in the improvements made both architecturally and agronomically. Andy asks how Tom was able to accomplish the massive tree removal and restoration work for such a low cost while not shutting down the course. The conversation ends with Tom spreading virtues on the tree management and flood mitigation work they have done at Cedar Rapids. Our Superintendent Series is brought to you by Toro Golf.
Episode 162: Nick Hardy
Former University of Illinois standout, Nick Hardy joins Andy on the podcast to discuss his experience making the transition from college to the professional game. Nick talks about building structure to his practice sessions, dealing with some early disappointment, playing in his 3rd U.S. Open and breaking through 2nd stage of Q-School.
Episode 161: Jaeger Kovich Part II
In part two of our podcast with golf architect Jaeger Kovich, he and Andy discuss critiques in golf architecture, Jaeger's Mt. Rushmore of golf architects and whether or not Seth Raynor is overrated. Jaeger also gives some advice for how he goes about seeing golf courses and planning his visits as well as his pet peeve in golf architecture. If you missed part 1, be sure to check it out to learn about Jaeger's background and how he got into golf architecture as a kid from New York City.
Episode 160: Jaeger Kovich
Golf Course Architect Jaeger Kovich joins Andy to talk about his career to date. Jaeger talks about how he got into architecture and cracked through despite graduating into the economic downturn in '09. The pair then talks about Jaeger's childhood playing golf in New York City, Jaeger's recent experience in France and architect Tom Simpson as well as the great A.W. Tillinghast courses in NY.
Superintendent Series- Episode 1: Alex Beson-Crone
Blue Mound Golf and Country Club's Superintendent Alex Beson-Crone joins the podcast. Andy and Alex discuss how Alex got into the turf industry and his early career at Erin Hills through its construction. The conversation then centers on Alex's transition from Erin Hills to the Seth Raynor-designed Blue Mound Golf and Country Club. Our Superintendent Series is brought to you by Toro Golf.
Episode 159: Roaring Gap, Aiken, and Palmetto
Continuing their debriefing of their early-October Southern swing, Andy and Garrett review their visit to Roaring Gap Club in the Blue Ridge Mountains near the North Carolina-Virginia border. A 1925 Donald Ross design, Roaring Gap is charming and faithfully restored—an old-fashioned hideaway. Andy and Garrett talk routing, topography, mowing lines, and whether Ross courses can be compared to Bruce Springsteen albums. They wrap up the conversation with a tribute to maybe the best golf town in America: Aiken, SC, home to the public Aiken Golf Club as well as the private Palmetto Golf Club. They touch on not only the outstanding architecture of these two courses but also the laid-back, welcoming atmosphere that defines them and the town in the general.
Episode 158: Reynolds Park and Old Town Club
In the first part of a conversation about their recent trip to the Carolinas, Andy and Garrett dig into two fascinating Perry Maxwell courses in Winston-Salem, NC: Reynolds Park Golf Course and Old Town Club. First, though, Andy reviews his visit to Mooresville Golf Club, a very good affordable course near Charlotte. Andy and Garrett then talk about Reynolds Park, a striking municipal course that they both regard as one of the top candidates for restoration in the country. They finish the episode with an in-depth discussion of Old Town Club. From its routing to its simple yet ingenious greens, this 1939 Perry Maxwell design, beautifully restored by Coore & Crenshaw in 2013, has a lot to teach any golf architecture enthusiast.
Episode 157: Kevin Moore – Tournament Course Setup and Analytics-Driven Strategy
Kevin Moore joins Andy and Garrett to discuss Rory McIlroy's surprising and intriguing comments about soft course setups on the European Tour. Kevin is a former Division 1 college golfer, a professor of Mathematics Education, and the founder of a golf course analysis company called Squares2Circles, so he has some keen insights into what McIlroy means when he talks about "playing with strategy." Kevin, Andy, and Garrett also discuss how equipment technology has changed the way the best players interact with golf architecture, and they dig into whether Kevin himself senses a conflict between his rational, competitive side and his romantic, architecture-loving side. They close with a brief discussion of Aiken Golf Club, the venue for the upcoming Fried Egg event The Thoroughbred. Follow Kevin on Twitter at @kevcmoore and his company Squares2Circles at @Squares2Circles.
Episode 156: Robert Crosby, Golf Historian and John Low Biographer
Joining first-time host Garrett Morrison is golf historian Robert Crosby, who is working on a book about the great John Low. Garrett and Bob touch on Bob's tumultuous college days and his thoughts about the escapist character of golf before delving into his research on the fascinating life and work of John Low. In the early 20th century, Low played an influential role in debates about golf architecture, equipment, and rules. His way of thinking about the game, as Bob eloquently describes, is just as relevant today as it was a century ago.Robert Crosby on John Low in the journal Through the Green:Part 1 - http://www.golfcollectors.co.uk/u/cms/TTG_90_2009September.pdf#page=34Part 2 - http://www.golfcollectors.co.uk/u/cms/TTG_93_2010June.pdf#page=10
Episode 155: Lukas Michel 2019 U.S. Mid Am Champion
Last week Lukas Michel became the first international winner of the U.S. Mid Am at Colorado Golf Club, he joins Andy to talk about his week in Colorado and his golf career. The pair talk about amateur golf, how Lukas got prepared for his Mid Am run at Sand Hills, the awkward moment on the final hole of the match and his plans for the future.
Episode 154: Geoff Shackelford – Part 2: Player empowerment era and golf architecture’s future
In part two of Andy's discussion with Golfweek and Golf Channel contributor Geoff Shackelford they discuss the new player empowerment era where golf has seen its biggest names speaking up on hot topics. The two discuss slow play and driver technology before Andy gets Geoff's take on the future of golf course architecture.
Episode 153: Geoff Shackelford – Part 1: Brooks & Rory and new schedule review
Geoff Shackelford joins the podcast to catch up with Andy on what's been going on in professional golf. Geoff answers important questions such as was the new schedule a success? Should Brooks have won Player of the Year and what we might see in with the TV contract negotiations.
Episode 152: Craig Moore Superintendent at Marquette Golf Club
Golf Course Superintendent Craig Moore joins the podcast to discuss maintaining turf on the United States Northern Border. Craig and Andy discuss the brilliant and varied architecture behind the 36 holes at Craig's facility the Marquette Golf Club. Craig discusses what it was like to build a course in the Upper Peninsula and some of the struggles maintaining turf that he faces.
Episode 151: Perry Maxwell, Prairie Dunes and Southern Hills
The Fried Egg's Managing Editor Garrett Morrison joins Andy to discuss their recent trip to Prairie Dunes and Southern Hills. Garrett and Andy talk about their takeaways on Perry Maxwell and how he is an underappreciated architect. The two then dive into Prairie Dunes, comparing Maxwell's original 9 to his son Press' work building the second 9. The two then dive into Southern Hills and the recent renovation work by Gil Hanse. The upcoming major host wowed both Garrett and Andy.
Yolk with Doak – Episode 17: The consulting business, the growing distance gap and architect’s biases
In the third installment of our recent recording session Tom Doak dives into some of his work at Stonewall Golf Club in Philadelphia. Then the conversation moves to Tom's future in the consulting business and what interests him for the final stage of his career. Tom brings up a good point about distance of amateurs and Tour pros comparing playing with Ben Crenshaw to Brooks Koepka.
Episode 150: Jaeger Kovich and Clyde Johnson – The Eclectic 18 of the UK
Golf course architects Jaeger Kovich and Clyde Johnson join the podcast to discuss their travels and new series on thefriedegg.com, The Eclectic 18. Both Jaeger and Clyde have traveled a great deal throughout their careers working for the likes of Tom Doak and Gil Hanse as well as their own projects, making a point to see all the areas courses. In this podcast, we discuss some of those travels and how they came up with the Eclectic 18 of the UK.
Episode 149: Geoff Ogilvy – Lowry’s win, Xander’s driver and what’s ahead
Geoff Ogilvy joins the podcast to discuss the week of golf at the Open Championship. Geoff and Andy start by talking about Shane Lowry's impressive win and how tough it is to sleep on the lead. Rickie Fowler notched another high finish and Andy asked Geoff's perspective on top 5's in majors versus wins. Their conversation moved to the week's big controversy, the non-conforming drivers and if and how more rigorous testing should be administered. They wrap up the podcast talking about the FedEx Cup Playoffs, the new format this year and the possible other formats for the Tour and Playoffs.
Episode 148: Geoff Ogilvy – Open Championship, Trackman and improving as a professional
Geoff Ogilvy joins Andy to discuss the 2019 Open Championship. Before they hit on Royal Portrush and the tournament, Geoff and Andy discuss Matthew Wolff, his golf swing and how Trackman has led to more unique motions. Then Andy asks Geoff about getting better as a Tour pro and how difficult it is to do. Finally they close with discussion of Geoff's history at the Open Championship and how it differs from the other majors and who he expects to play well at Portrush.
Episode 147: Arron Oberholser – The Wolff – Morikawa showdown, today’s young stars and the Open Championship
Golf Channel Analyst and Former PGA Tour winner Arron Oberholser joins the podcast to talk about new youth on Tour, Matthew Wolff, Colin Morikawa and Victor Hovland. Oberholser and Andy then discuss the difference between today's young stars and when Arron was a young player and the tools available. The conversation wraps with Arron talking about this year's schedule and the upcoming Open Championship.
Episode 146: Russ Myers
Southern Hills Country Club’s Golf Course Superintendent Russ Myers joins Andy to discuss subjects ranging from his work at Southern Hills to his time working grounds at Augusta National. Russ has a long history with championship golf and tells stories from cutting cups in front of Greg Norman to restoring LACC and Southern Hills with Gil Hanse.
Yolk with Doak – Episode 16: St. Patrick’s and building from scratch vs renovating
In the latest episode of the Yolk with Doak, Tom Doak and Andy Johnson discuss what is more difficult building from new vs renovating a course. Tom brings to light his experience renovating at The National but also talks about what the easier business is. Then Tom talks about his newest project, a links course in Ireland where he is partnering with Rosapenna Resort to build St. Patrick's.
Yolk with Doak Episode 15: A new course at Tara Iti, a Memorial Park update and Renaissance Club
In the return of the Yolk with Doak, Tom Doak joins to talk about his recent news. Tom and Andy talk about his new planned public course at Tara Iti in New Zealand, the Renaissance Club and the progress of Houston's Memorial Park and how it's been working with Brooks Koepka.
Episode 145: Charlie Danielson
Charlie Danielson joins the podcast after making the cut at the 2019 U.S. Open. Charlie and Andy discuss his qualifying for the U.S. Open after a major knee surgery that has kept him out of competition for the past year. Charlie goes into the transition from 4-time All-American at the University of Illinois to playing professionally and how the injury has made him reflect. Charlie also talks about his Saturday pairing with Phil at Pebble Beach and how it setup differently from his 2016 U.S. Open venue, Oakmont.
Episode 144: Geoff Ogilvy – U.S. Open, Pebble, Winged Foot and life as a pro
Geoff Ogilvy stops by in Monterey to talk the U.S. Open. Geoff and Andy discuss the U.S. Open's identity, his win in 2006, how par has changed and much more.
Episode 143: Pebble Beach Golf Links with Garrett Morrison
The Fried Egg's Managing Editor Garrett Morrison joins the podcast to talk about his new role with The Fried Egg and this week's U.S. Open at Pebble Beach. Garrett and Andy discuss what makes Pebble Beach a great golf course and a championship test that has endured 100 years.
Episode 142: Ryan French – Sectional Qualifiers
In part two of our conversation with Monday Qualifier Founder Ryan French we zero in on the U.S. Open and its Sectional Qualifying. Ryan and Andy kick off the discuss the Web.com Tour putting an event opposite the U.S. Open and the difficult position it puts its players in. Then Ryan dives into some of the players who qualified and their interesting back stories which include funding their golf careers through Golden Tee.
Episode 141: Ryan French – Monday Q Info – Part 1
The man behind the famed Monday Q Info (@acaseofthegolf1) Twitter account, Ryan French joins Andy to discuss how he started his account and Monday Qualifiers and Mini Tour golf. Ryan discusses where his interest in Monday Qualifiers and Mini-Tour stems from and some of his favorite stories since starting the account. In part two Ryan and Andy discuss the U.S. Open Sectional qualifying and some of the back stories behind the lesser known players.
Episode 140: Seth Raynor & CC of Charleston with Anthony Pioppi
Author, historian, Executive Director of the Seth Raynor Society and podcast host Anthony Pioppi joins Andy to discuss Seth Raynor and this week's U.S. Women's Open host, Country Club of Charleston. Anthony discusses Raynor's career and how he got into golf as well as his famed template holes and what he expects from this week's tournament.
Episode 139: Blake Conant – PGA Championship setup and Brooks’ win
Andy is joined by up and coming architect Blake Conant to discuss the 2019 PGA Championship. Blake and Andy talk about the week at Bethpage and the PGA's setup of the course and how it effected the championship. They also discuss it compared to Erin Hills and Blake talks about what he would like to see more of in the professional game.
Episode 138: Geoff Ogilvy – 2019 PGA Championship, Bethpage Black, Brooks Koepka and more
The second half of Andy's latest conversation with Geoff Ogilvy centers in on the 2019 PGA Championship at Bethpage. Geoff gives his thoughts on the new schedule and the PGA's place in golf. They then discuss Brooks Koepka and his unbelievable run in majors and public perception. They close with a discussion on Bethpage Black, what type of players will succeed and what makes it a special venue.
Episode 137: Geoff Ogilvy – Tiger’s win, putting & Trinity Forest
Geoff Ogilvy joins the podcast to chat Tiger's win at the Masters and what he thought of Sunday. Andy and Geoff then discuss par and its relation to Trinity Forest.
Episode 136: David Zinkand
Golf course architect David Zinkand joins the podcast to talk about his career. Andy and Dave discuss his time in college at Cornell and the Dreer Award and the opportunity to study abroad that came with it. Dave talks about how that experience altered his perception of golf course architecture and served as the foundation for his career. The conversation then flows through the distinct differences Dave experienced working for Arthur Hills versus architects such as Gil Hanse and Coore & Crenshaw. Andy and Dave then talk about a few of Dave's project work at Desert Forest, Old Elm and upcoming work to Canal Shores.
Episode 135: Geoff Shackelford – Rustic Canyon, Municipal Golf, Superintendents and Photography
In part two of our latest podcast with Geoff Shackelford, Andy and Geoff discuss the design of Rustic Canyon. They discuss the role of affordable golf and more importantly, municipal golf as well as the superintendent industry. Geoff also asks Andy about the progression of his drone photography. If you missed part one check it out as the two talk about the recent happenings in golf.
Episode 134: Geoff Shackelford – Part I
Golf Channel and Golfweek contributor Geoff Shackelford joins the podcast to discuss the recent happenings in golf. Part one of Andy and Geoff's conversation starts with thoughts on Augusta's setup before meandering to the youth invasion in the game and technology. They then talk about the schedule and the good and bad of the condensed season. Part Two of the podcast will air later this week.
Episode 133: The California Golf Club
Former California Golf Club President Allan Jamieson and revered Golf Historian David Normoyle join the podcast to discuss the California Golf Club and their ambitious renovation effort in 2006. The podcast starts with an interview with Allan Jamieson discussing the politics of the club and dynamics of the club before and after the renovation. Following Allan's interview, David Normoyle joins to discuss the intricacies of the California Golf Club's history and all the aspects that went into the renovation with Kyle Phillips.
Episode 132: Introducing the National Links Trust
Michael McCartin and Will Smith join Andy to discuss their new non-profit The National Links Trust. They discuss the importance of municipal golf and the organizations vision and goals. To sign up for the National Links Trust's newsletter, visit their website here: https://www.nationallinkstrust.com/
Episode 131: 2019 Masters Recap with Shane Bacon
Fox Sports’ Shane Bacon joins Andy as they recap the 2019 Masters Tournament. They talk Tiger, his legacy, his style of play, Francesco, and others who had a chance this week. The two also discuss what lies ahead for the rest of 2019 and who has the best chances in majors moving forward.
Epiosde 130: Geoff Ogilvy – Final 9 at Augusta National
Geoff Ogilvy joins the podcast to talk about Augusta National. Geoff breaks down each hole and what makes it an unbelievable closing stretch.
Episode 129: Geoff Ogilvy – The Front 9 at Augusta National
Geoff Ogilvy joins the podcast for another Masters episode. Andy and Geoff dive deep into playing Augusta National detailing the subtle design aspects that make the course a masterpiece. In this episode they discuss the front nine at Augusta National, the psychology of playing the course as a competitor and much more.
Episode 128: Geoff Ogilvy – Playing in the Masters
Geoff Ogilvy joins The Fried Egg podcast to discuss all things Masters. Geoff and And talk about what it’s like to be a rookie at Augusta, the feeling of being in contention on Sunday, how he learned to prepare for the event, and much more. They also discuss the agronomy at Augusta National and how the course sets up unlike any other on tour.
Episode 127: 2019 Masters Preview with Sean Martin
PGA Tour Senior Editor Sean Martin joins the podcast to preview the Masters. Andy and Sean discuss the biggest surprises from the 2019 season thus far and dive into the nitty gritty on the 2019 Masters. Learn why Sean is just lukewarm on Tiger's chances and the pair retell Monty's reaction to the 1997 Saturday pairing with Woods.
Episode 126: Aiken Golf Club
Andy is joined by Aiken Golf Club owner Jim McNair and golf course architect Blake Conant. Andy talks with Jim about how he and his family came to be owners of Aiken Golf Club and its rich, eventful history. Jim goes into detail about the renovation that he led in 1996 despite having no experience in architecture or construction and a small staff of 3. Following Jim, Andy calls Blake Conant to talk more about the golf course and what stuck most with Blake.
Episode 125: Eric Lippert – Head Professional at Pebble Beach
Andy recaps his visit to Pebble Beach Golf Links for the Summit and is joined by Pebble Beach's Head Pro, Eric Lippert. They discuss Eric's path to Pebble, his playing career, this year's U.S. Open and advice for a first timer to the resort.
Episode 124: Loss aversion in professional golf
University of Denver Professor Andrew Urbaczewski and Ryan Elmore join the podcast to discuss their paper on Loss Aversion in Professional Golf. Andrew and Ryan took a look at the effect that the change in par on the 2nd hole at Pebble Beach and 9th hole at Oakmont had on scoring in the U.S. Open. Read their paper here and listen to the podcast to learn about how changing the way you view par could change your scores for the better.
Episode 123: Ran Morissettt
Golf Club Atlas Founder Ran Morrissett joins the podcast. Ran and Andy discuss dogs on golf courses, the founding of Golf Club Atlas, critiquing golf courses, Ran's 147 Custodians and much more.
Yolk with Doak: Episode 14: Confidential Guide Volume 5 and visiting courses
In the latest edition of the Yolk with Doak, Andy and Tom Doak discuss his latest book, The Confidential Guide to Golf Courses: Volume 5. Tom discusses traveling through India and the unique golf courses and cultures. Tom also talks about a future book project centered around the topic of routing.
Episode 122: Geoff Ogilvy – The Players, Majors and The Vic Open
In part two of our most recent podcast with Geoff Ogilvy we discuss the PGA Tour's developing classes of events. Geoff talks about what he likes about invitationals and bigger events as a player. Andy and Geoff also talk about the PLAYERS and its attempt to become a major. The conversation wraps up talking about Geoff's most recent tournament playing the Vic Open a congruent event with the European Tour and LPGA Tour.
Episode 121: Geoff Ogilvy – Riviera, Slow Play & Adapting to modern equipment
Former U.S. Open Champion Geoff Ogilvy joins the podcast to discuss the latest happenings in golf. Andy and Geoff discuss the transition to the modern equipment including the low-spin and modern ball. They then talk about the weekend at Riviera, Geoff lends insight into what makes Riviera a course where veterans thrive and the two discuss potential solutions for slow play. Part two of the podcast will be released later this week.
Episode 120: Luke Donald
PGA Tour star Luke Donald joins the podcast to talk about his career. Luke and Andy discuss how he got to world #1, his favorite courses on Tour, how he practices, his top moments and much more.
Episode 119: LPGA Commissioner Mike Whan
LPGA Tour Commissioner Mike Whan joins the podcast. Mike talks about his aggressive approach to improving the LPGA Tour and what has succeeded and fallen short. He also discusses a few future ideas and what he's looking forward to in 2019. Listen to the podcast on iTunes, Stitcher and Spotify.
Episode 118: Ian Fillmore – Economist and co-author of Technological Change and Obsolete Skills: Evidence from Men’s Professional Tennis
What effect does technology have on golf? Maybe the question lies not in golf but elsewhere...
Economist Ian Fillmore joins us to discuss how the change from wooden racquets to composite racquets in tennis parallels the game of golf. Ian is an associate professor at Washington University of St. Louis and earned his PHD from the University of Chicago. You can read he and Jonathan Hall's paper Technological Change and Obsolete Skills: Evidence from Men’s Professional Tennis (link) and follow his website (link).
Episode 117: Curtis James
Old Elm Club's Director of Agronomy Curtis James joins the podcast. Andy and Curtis discuss his background, how agronomy and turf work together, how a municipal course could improve on a shoestring budget and the transformation of the Old Elm Club.
Episode 116: Geoff Ogilvy – Scotland,and challenging vs hard golf
Geoff Ogilvy and Andy talk about Geoff’s recent trip to Scotland and the allure of links golf. Geoff talks about the compelling aspects of women’s professional golf and how their game showcase architecture. Then the two discuss the idea of challenging versus hard golf.
Episode 115: Geoff Ogilvy – Hawaii Swing, New Rules and challenging pros
In the first episode of our new series with former U.S. Open Champion Geoff Ogilvy, Andy and Geoff discuss Waialae and Kapalua and their unique challenges. They also dive into what they like and don't like about the new rules in golf as well as testing the world's best players.
The Yolk with Doak – Episode 13: Memorial Park and the PGA Tour
Tom Doak joins Andy to discuss his new project redesigning Houston’s Memorial Park Golf Course. The popular municipal design is planning on hosting the 2020 Houston Open. Doak talks about his plans for the site, working with Brooks Koepka and some of his thoughts on testing Tour pros.
Episode 114: Roberto Castro Part II
PGA Tour player Roberto Castro joins The Fried Egg podcast for part 2. He and Andy talk how he builds his schedule, golf design trends, pace of play on the PGA Tour and much more.
Episode 113: Roberto Castro Part I
PGA Tour player Roberto Castro joins the podcast. In part one, Andy and Roberto talk about the role of golf course architecture in golf, Roberto's time on the PGA Tour and Web.com Tour and how distance has changed the game. Roberto also discusses the difference in major championship setups to the regular week setup and how winning is underrated.
Episode 112: Michael McCartin & East Potomac Park GC
Andy is joined by golf course architect Michael McCartin to talk about municipal golf, specifically Washington DC's East Potomac Golf Course. The conversation starts with Michael's background and how he got into golf course architecture working for Tom Doak and Renaissance Golf Design. The two then get into a discussion about Michael's graduate school thesis (read here) on Washington DC's East Potomac Park Golf Course. Upon opening, the reversible Walter Travis design became one of the nation's most popular and greatest municipal golf facilities. Today, it's a shell of its original self but has an opportunity (thanks to an upcoming change in management) that will allow for capital improvements.
Episode 111: Patrick Boyd Part II
Patrick Boyd is the founder of National Custom Works and Boyd Blade and Ferrule. Patrick is one of the few people in golf making hand-crafted irons and also sports a wealth of golf course architecture. In part two we discuss fun golf courses, the fair police and take a trip down memory lane talking golf equipment of the yesteryear. If you missed part one, check it out and learn about Patrick's background and how he got into the equipment industry.
Episode 110: Patrick Boyd Part I
Andy is joined by Patrick Boyd founder of National Custom Irons and golf course architecture nut. They discuss Patrick’s company, custom irons, his role at Sweetens Cove and much more.
The Yolk with Doak – Episode 12: Sand Valley, golf in England and listener Q&A
In the latest edition of the Yolk with Doak, Tom Doak discusses his new project at Sand Valley. The two discuss Tom's desire to do different types of projects, his affinity for golf in England and then answer some listener questions.
Episode 109: Colin Sheehan Part III
Andy and Colin discuss the start of the Outpost Club, developing courses, caddying and much more. If you missed Part I or Part II of our podcast with Colin check them out.
Episode 108: Colin Sheehan Part II
In part two of a three part podcast, Colin and Andy discuss Colin's career as a writer, golf architecture, golf in the UK and much more.
Episode 107: Colin Sheehan Part I
The Fried Egg podcast is back with Yale Golf Coach Colin Sheehan. In part one, Andy and Colin discuss a wide range of topics from collegiate golf to golf course architecture. Part two will air on Monday, November 5th.
Episode 106: Cobbs Creek Golf Course
Joe Bausch and Mike Cirba join the podcast to discuss their work on the Cobbs Creek restoration project. Joe and Mike have been working tirelessly to get the Hugh Wilson municipal design restored over the past 11 years. We discuss the course's history, what spurred the restoration effort and the future of Cobbs.
For more information on Cobbs check out following links
Friends of Cobb's Creek
Golf Club Atlas Thread
Bausch Photo Collection
Bausch History Collection
Episode 105: Shane Bacon
Fox play-by-play commentator and host of the Clubhouse podcast Shane Bacon joins the podcast. We talk about how Shane got into the golf business, the USGA calendar, the upcoming Ryder Cup and much more.
Episode 104: 2018 PGA Championship Recap
SB Nation's Brendan Porath and ESPN's Kevin Van Valkenburg join the podcast to recap a wild 2018 PGA. We discuss, Brooks Koepka, Tiger's run, Adam Scott's close call, the golf course and much more.
Episoode 103: 2018 PGA Championship Preview
SB Nation's Brendan Porath and ESPN's Kevin Van Valkenburg join the podcast to preview the 2018 PGA Championship. We discuss last week's Bridgestone, who has the most to gain from a win at Bellerive and even have a drop in weather report from Gary Player.
Episode 102: Changing golf with Kevin Van Valkenburg
ESPN's Kevin Van Valkenburg joins Andy Johnson to discuss the changes each one of them would make to golf if they had the chance. They also discuss the recent happenings on Tour and look ahead to the PGA Championship.
Episode 101: 2018 Open Championship Recap
Brendan Porath and Sean Martin are back to recap the thrilling 2018 Open Championship. We talk Molinari's win, Tiger's surge, Rory, Spieth Xander and look ahead to the PGA.
Episode 100: Open Championship Preview
Brendan Porath and Sean Martin are back to preview this week's Open Championship! Sean gives us his on the ground report while Brendan breaks down the keys to staying awake for the whole Open.
Episode 99: Chicago Golf Club
Chicago Golf Club Historian John Moran and Superintendent Scott Bordner join the podcast to discuss their historic course and the 2018 U.S. Senior Women's Open.
Episode 98: Andrew Green Part II
The second part of our podcast with golf course architect Andrew Green is live. In part two we discuss Andrew’s restoration projects which include Inverness, Oak Hill and Scioto among others.
Episode 97: Andrew Green – Part I
Golf course architect Andrew Green joins the pod for the first of a two part podcast. In part I Andrew discusses how he got into golf, how he approaches his business, his recent trip to Scotland and much more.
Episode 96: Casey Krahenbuhl
Casey Krahenbuhl joins the podcast to talk golf course architecture. We discuss the whether today's architects would design better courses than the golden age architects, Casey's recent work for David McLay Kidd at Mammoth Dunes and much more.
Episode 95: U.S. Open Recap with Brendan Porath and Sean Martin
Brendan Porath and Sean Martin join the podcast to discuss the 2018 U.S. Open at Shinnecock Hills. We discuss Brooks Koepka's win, the course setup, Phil and much more.
Episode 94: U.S. Open Preview Podcast with Brendan Porath and Sean Martin
The PGA Tour's Sean Martin and SB Nation's Brendan Porath joined the podcast to preview the 2018 U.S. Open. We discuss Shinnecock Hills, players we like, dream U.S. Open rotas and much more.
Episode 93: U.S. Open Picks with Paulie
Our resident picks expert Paulie drops by the podcast to talk U.S. Open. We talk one and done, draftkings, longshots and strategy for this week's U.S. Open
The Yolk with Doak: Episode 11: Michigan Golf
Tom Doak and Don Placek join the podcast to discuss their favorite golf courses in the state of Michigan.
Episode 92: Eamon Lynch
While attending Mammoth Dunes’ opening day, Golfweek contributor Eamon Lynch joined the podcast to discuss the Sand Valley resort, golf in the UK vs US, the PGA Tour schedule to date and the upcoming U.S. Open.
Episode 91: Geoff Shackelford
Golf analyst and noted golf course architecture expert Geoff Shackelford joins the podcast to discuss the AT&T Byron Nelson at Trinity Forest, the upcoming PGA Tour schedule and the future schedule.
Episode 90: Gil Hanse Part II
In part two of the Gil Hanse podcast, Andy and Gil discuss some of Gil’s latest projects, how he’d split ten rounds of golf across America and much more.
Episode 89: Gil Hanse Part I
Golf course architect Gil Hanse joins the podcast for a two-part podcast. In part one he discusses his career to date, golden age architecture, the Olympic Course in Rio and much more.
Episode 88: 2018 Players Preview
The PGA Tour's Sean Martin and SB Nation's Brendan Porath join the podcast to preview the 2018 PLAYERS Championship. We talk about players who have surprised and disappointed, the course and our picks for this week's tournament.
Episode 87: Bill Coore and Jim Craig at Sand Valley
Live from Sand Valley’s opening day festivities Andy Johnson is joined by Bill Coore and Jim Craig of the renowned Coore & Crenshaw design firm. They talked about their brand new par-3 course The Sandbox, their 18-hole Sand Valley design, working for the Keisers and more.
The Yolk with Doak: Episode 10: The Loop
In this episode, Andy Johnson and Tom Doak are joined by Renaissance Golf Design Associate Don Placek to discuss the Loop, the revolutionary reversible golf course in Michigan.
Episode 86: Geoff Ogilvy – Part II
In this episode, Geoff talks about how he got into golf course architecture, strategy, PGA Tour setups, his thoughts on TPC courses, and much more. If you missed part I be sure to check it out!
Episode 85: Geoff Ogilvy Part I
2006 U.S. Open champion Geoff Ogilvy joins the podcast. Geoff and Andy talk about his career on the PGA Tour, whether winning is overrated, why the Masters is the greatest event in golf and much more.
Episode 84: Tyler Rae
Golf course architect Tyler Rae joins the podcast to talk about his career. We begin our conversation with a lengthy discussion on the brilliance of Donald Ross, his most under the radar designs, his best designs and talents. The conversation then moved to Tyler’s career and experiences working for Keith Foster, Coore & Crenshaw and Ron Prichard.
Episode 83: Andy Staples
Golf course architect Andy Staples joins the podcast to discuss his career. We dive into his affinity and passion for Community golf, his restoration of Meadowbrook C.C. and what he learned about Willie Park, courses that have inspired him, restoration and renovation and much more.
2018 Masters Recap with Brendan Porath
Brendan Porath joins the podcast to discuss the 2018 Masters. We talk Patrick Reed, Rickie, Spieth, Rory and much more.
2018 Masters: Sunday Preview
Will Knights joined the podcast to breakdown Saturday's action and look ahead to Sunday's final round.
2018 Masters Preview
I am joined by the PGA Tour's Sean Martin, SB Nation's Brendan Porath and the Creative Director for Summit Golf Brands Billy Draddy. We talk about what we love about the Masters, our favorite storylines going into the week, Phil's practice round outfit, Masters scripting and who we like to win the 2018 Masters.
2018 Masters: Paulie’s Picks
Paulie joins the podcast to discuss strategies and players for DraftKings, office pools and one and done leagues.
Augusta Archives: Stewart Hagestad
2017 Masters low amateur winner Stewart Hagestad joins the podcast. We discuss his run in the 2017 Masters, how he prepared for the week, his favorite holes at Augusta National and much more.
Augusta Archives: Craig Stadler
1982 Masters Champion Craig Stadler joins the podcast to talk about Augusta and the Masters. A few of the topics we discuss include the Champions dinner, Craig's win, what about Augusta fit his game, the future of the Masters and much more.
Augusta Archives: Steve Scott
Welcome to the Augusta Archives, conversations with present and former Masters competitors. In this episode 1997 participant Steve Scott joins the podcast to talk about his experience in the Masters, the golf course and his favorite memories from his week at Augusta.
The Yolk with Doak: Episode 9: Routing Part II
Welcome back for part two of our discussion with Tom Doak and Don Placek about routing, one of the most difficult and important aspects of golf course design.
The Yolk with Doak: Episode 8: Routing Part I
Tom and I are joined by Renaissance Golf Associate Don Placek. Besides aiding in the every aspect of projects, Don is also responsible for Renaissance's artwork. Don, Tom and I jump into the endless discussion that is routing. Enjoy.
Episode 82: Superintendent Roundtable
A few of the brightest young stars in the superintendent industry join the podcast. Shoreacres' Brian Palmer, Glen View Club's Brian Moore, Bob O' Link's Scott Pavalko and fellow golf nerd Jason Way joined for the first ever live podcast at Oak Park C.C.. We discussed their careers, working with architects, restoring Golden Age courses and much more.
Episode 81: Zac Blair
PGA Tour player Zac Blair joins the podcast to talk about Northern California golf, Jack Nicklaus stories, PGA Tour setups and best golf cities.
Episode 80: Recapping Tiger at the Valspar
SB Nation’s Brendan Porath and the PGA Tour’s Sean Martin join the podcast to talk about Tiger’s performance, what we expect going forward, Sam Burns, Augusta and much more.
Episode 79: Arron Oberholser
Arron Oberholser joins the podcast to catch up about the start of the PGA Tour season. We kick off the conversation discussing a few San Francisco golf courses and the notion of score to par vs. shot values for professional golf. We then dive into Justin Thomas, Tiger Woods, the WGC schedule and much more.
Episode 78: Ed Loar
Web.com Tour professional Ed Loar joins the podcast to talk about his career. Ed is one of the older guys on the Web.com Tour and has played golf on almost every Tour in the world. We discuss the ups and downs of golf, his recent stretch of great play on the Web.com Tour and how professional golf has changed over the years.
The Yolk with Doak: Episode 7: Renaissance Golf, George Thomas and Bel-Air CC Part III
The third and final part of the latest episode of the Yolk with Doak is live. In this episode we continue to discuss George Thomas, Bel-Air CC and golf course architecture as a whole with Tom Doak and his associates.
The Yolk with Doak: Episode 6 – Renaissance Golf, George Thomas and Bel-Air CC Part II
In part II of the Renaissance Golf, George Thomas and Bel-Air CC episode, Tom and his associates Eric Iverson, Brian Schneider, Blake Conant and Kye Goalby discuss the career of George Thomas and his Bel-Air design.
The Yolk with Doak: Episode 5 – Renaissance Golf, George Thomas and Bel-Air C.C.
In the latest edition of the Yolk with Doak, Andy Johnson talks with Tom Doak and Renaissance associates Eric Iverson, Brian Schneider, Kye Goalby and Blake Conant. In part one of the three part podcast they cover how Renaissance Golf and golf course construction works before diving into George Thomas and Bel-Air C.C. in part two.
Episode 77: Sean Tully
Zac Blair and I are joined by golf course superintendent and historian Sean Tully. We discuss Northern California golf, Alister MacKenzie, technology, Pebble Beach, Cypress Point, robot mowers and much more.
Episode 76: Michael Weaver
Kyle Nathan and Andy Johnson are joined by Web.com Tour Player Michael Weaver. We discuss how Michael got into golf, the Latin American Tour, his run at the 2012 U.S. Amateur, playing in the Masters and much more.
Episode 75: 2018 Waste Management Open
Paulie and Kyle Nathan join to breakdown who to pick for one and done leagues and DraftKings at TPC Scottsdale.
Episode 74: Brandel Chamblee
Kyle Nathan and Andy Johnson are joined by Golf Channel Analyst, former PGA Tour player and author Brandel Chamblee. We discuss Jon Rahm's ascension, the modern golf swing, technology, Tiger Woods and much more.
Episode 73: 2018 Farmers Insurance Preview
Kyle Nathan and Paulie join the podcast to discuss last week's CareerBuilder and Abu Dhabi events. We then discuss Tiger's return and the rest of the field at Torrey Pines for this year's Farmers Insurance
The Yolk with Doak: Episode 4 – Streamsong
In this episode, we discuss the building of the Florida golf mecca, Streamsong. The building of Tom's Blue course and Coore & Crenshaw's Red course was one of the most unique and collaborative in the history of golf.
Episode 72: Mike Cocking
Australian Golf Course Architect Mike Cocking joins the podcast to discuss his career. Mike works with Michael Clayton, Geoff Ogilvy and Ashley Mead (OCCM), we discussed how he got into design, some of their recent projects, the history of Australian architecture and the ideal itinerary for an Australian golf trip.
Episode 71: 2018 CareerBuilder Preview
Paulie and Kyle Nathan join the podcast to recap the Sony Open and preview the CareerBuilder. Paulie lends his expertise navigating the field and picking out some players for one and done and DraftKings. We also dive into some listener questions and overrated/underrateds.
Episode 70: Richie Ramsay
European Tour winner and former U.S. Amateur champion Richie Ramsay joins the podcast. We discuss Richie's career, turning pro before a Walker Cup, Anthony Kim and his favorite courses in the British Isles.
Episode 69: 2018 Sony Open Preview and Picks
Our resident fantasy expert Paulie joins the podcast to talk about the Tournament of Champions, who to pick for one and done and Draftkings at the Sony and some predictions for 2018.
The Yolk with Doak: Episode 3 – Waialae C.C., The Sony Open and Seth Raynor
In the latest episode of The Yolk with Doak, we discuss Tom's consulting work at Seth Raynor designed Waialae Country Club, host course of the Sony Open. We talk about the changes to Waialae over the years, what he learns from PGA Tour players, Seth Raynor and much more.
Episode 68: Jim Urbina Part II
In part two of the Jim Urbina podcast we discuss Jim's background, C.B. Macdonald and Seth Raynor's use of templates, the importance of superintendents and the building of Old Macdonald.
Episode 67: Jim Urbina Part I
Golf course architect Jim Urbina joined the podcast for a two part episode. We discuss restoration, easy things courses can do to improve, Perry Maxwell, Alister MacKenzie, his California courses and much more.
Episode 66: Jon Cavalier & Zac Blair – 2017 Golf Season Rehash
Jon Cavalier and Zac Blair join the podcast to discuss the 2017 golf year. We breakdown the ten best "new to us" courses that we saw, a few courses that surprised us, architecture, our plans for 2018 and much more. We discussed Jon's calendar in the podcast, to purchase the calendar check out these instructions - https://twitter.com/LinksGems/status/940726753152131075
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Episode 2: The Yolk with Doak: Golf Course Architecture 101 Part II
In part two of Golf Course Architecture 101, Tom Doak discusses what makes a great green complex, front to back sloping greens, best golf course architecture books for beginners and dive into some overrated/underrateds.
Episode 65: Mark Broadie
Mark Broadie joins Kyle Nathan and Andy Johnson to talk about golf statistics. We discuss how he came up with the strokes gained statistics, how they work, the world rankings, who he expects to breakout in 2017 and much more.
The Yolk with Doak: Episode 1 – Golf Course Architecture 101 Part I
Tom Doak and Andy Johnson discuss Golf Course Architecture 101. In the first of a two part episode, Tom elaborates on what golf course architecture is, the different schools of design, routing and much more.
Episode 64: Hero Debrief with Adam Sarson and Brendan Porath
Brendan Porath and Adam Sarson joined the podcast to talk about Tiger’s return at the Hero and what to expect in 2018. We also touch on our favorite moments of 2017, make predictions for 2018 and talk about Tiger’s Monster sponsorship.
Episode 63: Paul Goydos
PGA Tour Champions star and 2-time PGA Tour winner Paul Goydos joins the podcast to talk about his career, Tiger Woods, bifurication and much more!
Episode 62: Mailbag Podcast
Kyle Nathan joins the podcast to answer your questions. The conversation hits extensively on the ball and today's professional game, Rickie Fowler and Justin Rose's career, the Hall of Fame and architects, and a slew of overrated/underrateds.
Episode 61: Keith Foster
Golf course architect Keith Foster joins the podcast to talk about his career. Our discussion includes trees, the restoration process, his solo work, Colt and Alison and A.W. Tillinghast.Listen and subscribe to the podcast on iTunes and Stitcher. If you enjoy it, please rate and review the podcast!
Episode 60: Bill Coore Part II
In part II, Bill discusses the concept of par, Trinity Forest and challenging the world's best and answers some listener questions. If you missed part I listen to it here.
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Episode 59: Bill Coore Part I
Legendary golf course architect Bill Coore joins the podcast to talk about his career in golf. In part I, we discuss the architects and courses who have had the most influence on his career and go into detail in some of his most famous projects. Listen to part 2 of the podcast here.
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Episode 58: Kyle Franz Part II
In part II of the Kyle Franz podcast we talk about golf in the British Isles, the ground game and professional golf, desert golf and overrated/underrated. If you haven't checked out Part I, listen here. Listen and subscribe to the podcast on iTunes and Stitcher. If you enjoy please rate and review the podcast it helps us out greatly!
Episode 57: Kyle Franz Part I
Golf course architect Kyle Franz joins the podcast to discuss his career and golf course architecture. In part I, Kyle talks about his background, working with some of today's great architects and Donald Ross and other great golden age architects.Listen and subscribe to the podcast on iTunes and Stitcher. If you enjoy please rate and review the podcast it helps us out greatly!
Episode 56: A Design Discussion with Jay Blasi & Brett Hochstein
Architects Jay Blasi and Brett Hochstein join the pod to discuss the dark ages of golf course architecture and what the future holds for those courses.Listen and subscribe to the podcast on iTunes and Stitcher. If you enjoy please rate and review the podcast it helps us out greatly!
Episode 55: Curtis Tyrrell
I am joined by Medinah Country Club's Director of Grounds Curtis Tyrrell. We talk about how he got into the industry, his experience renovating courses with Rees Jones and Tom Doak, stories from hosting a Ryder Cup and much more.Listen and subscribe to the podcast on iTunes and Stitcher. If you enjoy please rate and review the podcast it helps us out greatly!
Episode 54: The Buck Club
I am joined by Zac Blair and DJ Piehowski to talk golf course architecture and The Buck Club.Listen and subscribe to the podcast on iTunes and Stitcher. If you enjoy please rate and review the podcast it helps us out greatly!
Episode 53: Post Presidents Cup Mailbag
Kyle Nathan (@drawsnfades) joins the podcast to answer your questions about the Presidents Cup, the new PGA Tour season, mid am regulations and much more.Listen and subscribe to the podcast on iTunes and Stitcher. If you enjoy please rate and review the podcast it helps us out greatly!
Episode 52: Kyle Hegland
Sand Hills Superintendent and golf course architecture nut Kyle Hegland and I sat down to talk in the Sand Hills library over the weekend. We talk about the drastic temperatures and unique challenges of maintaining Sand Hills, the genius of Bill Coore and Ben Crenshaw, golf course architecture and much more. Listen and subscribe to the podcast on iTunes and Stitcher. If you enjoy please rate and review the podcast it helps us out greatly!
Episode 51: PGA Tour Season Review & Presidents Cup Preview
SB Nation's Brendan Porath and the PGA Tour's Sean Martin join the podcast to talk about the 2016-2017 PGA Tour season, the young stars of the PGA Tour, the Presidents Cup and much more. Listen and subscribe to the podcast on iTunes and Stitcher. If you enjoy please rate and review the podcast it helps us out greatly!
Episode 50: FedEx Cup Mailbag
Kyle Nathan (@drawsnfades) joins the podcast to talk FedEx Cup and answer mailbag questions. Listen and subscribe to the podcast on iTunes and Stitcher. If you enjoy please rate and review the podcast it helps us out greatly!
Episode 49: Patrick Newcomb
Mackenzie Tour and Latin American Tour star Patrick Newcomb joins the podcast to talk about his strong 2017 season. We talk about bucket hats, his start at this week's Portugal Masters, playing around the world and much more.Listen and subscribe to the podcast on iTunes and Stitcher.
Episode 48: Mailbag III
Kyle Nathan @drawsnfades joins the podcast to answer listener questions. We talk about Augusta National's new Chairman Fred Ridley, the FedEx Cup, the U.S. Am, the Walker Cup selections and much more. Listen and subscribe to the podcast on iTunes and Stitcher.
Episode 47: Jay Blasi
I am joined with golf course architect Jay Blasi. Jay and I discuss the future of golf course design, technology, Sharp Park, the reaction to Chambers Bay and much more.Listen and subscribe to the podcast on iTunes and Stitcher.
Episode 46: Mike DeVries
I am joined by golf course architect Mike DeVries. We talk about his background and how he got into architect, the philosophy of routing, golden age architects and much more.Listen on iTunes or Stitcher and if you enjoy please leave a review!
Episode 45: 3 Man Weave with DJ Piehowski & Tron Carter
DJ Piehowski and Tron Carter join the pod to talk about the battle for the final top 125 spots We talk about relegation, the idea of a Death Panel and to answer listener questions.Listen on iTunes or Stitcher and if you enjoy please leave a review!
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Episode 44: Post PGA Championship Mailbag Podcast
Kyle Nathan @drawsnfades joins the podcast to answer mailbag questions and recap the PGA Championship. We discuss Justin Thomas, Louis Oosthuizen, some golf course architecture and Mid-Am Golf. If you want to ask a question for the next mailbag do so here and as always if you enjoy the podcast please rate and review us in iTunes and Stitcher.
Episode 43: Mailbag Pod
Kyle Nathan @drawsnfades joins the pod to answer the latest mailbag questions. We talk PGA Championship coverage, future PGA sites, a potential PGA Tour stock market and much more. Listen and subscribe on:iTunes or Stitcher
Episode 42: Talking PGA, U.S. Am & Walker Cup with Sean Martin
The PGA Tour's Sean Martin comes on the podcast to discuss the U.S. Amateur, Walker Cup and PGA Championship. The conversation floats between the subjects and also touches on technology, the business side of amateur golf and much more. Sean mentioned a piece he wrote on Brian Harman at the end of the podcast, here's the link to it.
Episode 41: PGA Championship Picks with Paulie
Our resident picks guru @friedeggpaulie joined the podcast to breakdown who he likes at this week's PGA Championship. We talk about the changes made to Quail Hollow and who it should help at 2017's final major championship.
Episode 40: Brian Silva
Golf course architect Brian Silva joins the podcast to talk about his career. The conversation meanders from how he got his start in the industry, the essence of strategy and template holes.
Episode 39: 2017 Open Championship Recap
DJ Piehowski and Tron Carter joined the pod to recap what we saw at Birkdale. We talked extensively about Kuchar's tough loss and what Spieth's trajectory is.
Episode 38: 2017 Open Championship Preview
Skratch's DJ Piehowski and No Laying Up's Tron Carter join the podcast to preview this year's Open. We dive into Royal Birkdale, Bryson's big win at the Deere, Rory's struggles and our picks to win. If you enjoy the podcast, please rate and review it in the iTunes store. Listen on iTunes or Stitcher.
Episode 37: Dr. Greg Cartin
Sports psychologist Dr. Greg Cartin joins the podcast to speak about how to think while on the golf course. Dr. Greg works with a handful of PGA and Web.com Tour players to get them to maximize their results on the course. Listen on iTunes Listen on Stitcher
Episode 36: Geoff Shackelford
Golf writer and golf course architecture expert Geoff Shackelford joins the podcast. We discuss a variety of topics including golf course architecture, technology and professional golf.Also listen on iTunes and Stitcher. (If you enjoy please leave us a review).iTunes linkStitcher
Episode 35: Scott Fawcett
Scott Fawcett joins the podcast to talk about how he works with Tour professionals and elite amateur players to manage their games better. Scott's DECADE system is being used by 25 Tour players and many of the top college programs. We talk about what the DECADE system is, how he came up with it and how he puts it in practice with his students and himself.
Episode 34: U.S. Open Recap
DJ Piehowski and Brendan Porath join the pod to rehash the 2017 U.S. Open. We discuss Brooks Koepka's win and his future major championship prospects, JT and Rickie, who impressed and Erin Hills.
Episode 33: U.S. Open Preview
I am joined by DJ Piehowski and Brendan Porath to discuss this week's U.S. Open at Erin Hills. We dive deep into the hoopla which is the U.S. Open, Erin Hills, the superstars, young guys trying to get a major and the older players who are trying to add to their legacies.
Episode 32: David Esler
I am joined by golf course architect David Esler to talk about his career, his playing days at Ohio State and what has come of the Scarlet Course, some of his projects including his new Oregon coastline course Pacific Gales and much more.
Episode 31: Lance Ringler
I am joined by Golfweek's Lance Ringler to recap what's happened so far at the NCAA Men's Championship and look ahead to the final three days. Lance talks about how he got into college golf, some of his favorite players and we discuss what has surprised us and impressed us from this year's championship. Listen on iTunes or Stitcher.
Episode 30: Wyndham Clark
College's top ranked player, Oregon's Wyndham Clark joins the podcast to talk golf before this weekend's NCAA Championship. We talk about how he got into golf, what it's like to play at Oregon and his plans after graduation.
Episode 29: Zac Blair, Tron Carter and DJ Piehowski
Zac Blair joins the three man weave to discuss his Players, the 9 he made on 17, Johnny Miller and much more.
Episode 28: Steve Wenzloff
The PGA Tour's VP Of Design Services Steve Wenzloff joins the podcast to discuss the changes made at TPC Sawgrass and how they approach renovations and builds to PGA Tour venues.
Episode 27: PLAYERS Preview
The pod is onsite as I am joined by No Laying Up's Tron Carter and Skratch's DJ Piehowski to discuss the PLAYERS and the mystery of Ken Duke's snub.
Episode 26: Jeff Mingay
Golf course architect Jeff Mingay joins the podcast to talk about his career, TPC Sawgrass and Augusta National, overlooked great architect AV Macan, music and much more. Also available on iTunes and Stitcher.Follow @jeff_mingay
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Episode 25: Jake Nichols
Jake Nichols joins the podcast to talk about analytics and stats on the PGA Tour. Topics covered include who he expects to breakout, how he and the 15th club work with clients, how amateurs can use stats better and much more.Follow @jalnichols
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Episode 24: NOLA Preview with Tron Carter & DJ Pie
No Laying Up's Tron Carter and Skratch's DJ Piehowski join the podcast to talk about the Heritage, Valero and to preview the PGA Tour's team event the Zurich Classic.
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Episode 23: Riley Johns
I am joined by Riley Johns, a up and coming golf course architect who recently finished his first solo project with Keith Rhebb at Winter Park. Before Winter Park, Riley worked for great architects such as Tom Doak, Coore & Crenshaw and Rod Whitman.
Episode 22: Masters Recap with Tron Carter, Adam Sarson & DJ Piehowski
To breakdown Sergio's major triumph I am joined by Sergio's biggest fan Adam Sarson as well as No Laying Up's Tron Carter and Skratch's DJ Piehowski.
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Episode 21: Masters Sunday Preview with Tron Carter & Young Neil
I am joined by No Laying Up's Tron Carter and Young Neil to talk about Saturday's action and preview what to expect from Sunday's.
Episode 20: Tron Carter & DJ Piehowski
No Laying Up's Tron Carter @troncarter and the PGA Tour's DJ Piehowski @djpie join the podcast to discuss the first two rounds of the Masters and what to expect this weekend.
Episode 19: Arron Oberholser
Arron Oberholser joins the podcast to talk golf. We talk about how equipment has changed the game, the upcoming Masters, golf courses and architecture, Tiger Woods chances of playing at Augusta and the Grayson Murray situation.
Episode 18: Nick Hardy & Dylan Meyer
I am joined by two of Illinois golf stars Nick Hardy and Dylan Meyer. I talk to each of them for a half hour about their golf careers, life in college and Illinois' golf teams. Follow Nick and Dylan on Twitter.Follow @NickHardy8Follow @DJ_DFunk
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Episode 17: Tom Doak – Part II
Part two of the Tom Doak podcast focuses on Tom's life as a golf course critic and we debut our new regular segment of overrated/underrated. If you missed it here is part 1 of our conversation.Listen on iTunes
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Episode 16: Tom Doak
I host the illustrious architect Tom Doak. Because of Tom's generosity with his time, we split the podcast into two parts.Part I focuses on Tom's background, projects and architectural philosophies and in Part II which will be published on Friday, March 17th, we focus on his life as a golf critic and golf courses to see around the globe. Listen to Part IITom recently joined Instagram and is a great follow, his profile is here @doakgolf. And be sure to check out his books if you enjoy golf course architecture and golf courses here. Listen on iTunes
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Episode 15: Sean Martin
I am joined by the PGA TOUR's Sean Martin. Sean is a longtime scribe for the golf industry and we chat in detail about the PGA TOUR, the future of golf, names of the past and splice in some golf course architecture talk. Follow @PGATOURSMartinA link to Sean's Bryan Brothers piece he mentioned on the Podcast.
Episode 14: Josh Gregory
Two-time National Champion coach at Augusta State and now PGA Tour coach Josh Gregory joins to talk golf, specifically his approach to coaching and his students John Peterson, Kelly Kraft, Patrick Reed and Henrik Norlander.
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Episode 13: Zac Blair & Jon Cavalier
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I am joined by Zac Blair and Jon Cavalier to talk golf courses and architecture. Topics range from Cypress Point and the Monterey Peninsula to architects to template holes and much more.
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Episode 12: Tee-K Kelly
I talk golf with former Ohio State star golfer Tee-K Kelly. Tee-K recently turned professional after a standout amateur and college career, earning full-status on the PGA Tour Latin American Tour for 2017. We talk about how he got into the game, his amateur career, favorite courses and what he is working on to take his game to the next level. Follow Tee-K on TwitterFollow @teekkelly
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Episode 11: Michael Clayton
I chat with Australian golf legend Michael Clayton. We discuss Michael's long career on the European Tour and what it was like to play with Seve Ballesteros, along how technology has been a detriment to the game, and OCCM's latest projects.
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Episode 10: David McLay Kidd
Our latest guest is one of today's finest architects, David McLay Kidd. David has designed the likes of Bandon Dunes, Nanea Golf Club and Gamble Sands to name a few and is currently working on projects at Sand Valley and Rolling Hills C.C. Our talk covered a wide variety of topics including how he got into architecture, his experience building Bandon Dunes as an unknown architect in his 20s, his Sand Valley and Rolling Hills projects and some nitty gritty architecture talk. Follow David on Twitter using the button below.
Episode 9: Stewart Hagestad
We talk with the 2016 U.S. Mid-Amateur Champion Stewart Hagestad. Stewart had a thrilling victory at Stonewall in September over Scott Harvey and with the win earned himself an invitation to Augusta National for the 2017 Masters. We talk with Stewart about the win at Stonewall, his prep for Augusta, his Walker Cup chances and his friendships with some PGA Tour players.
Here's the famed Barstool Video that we discussed on the podcast.
Episode 8: Jon Cavalier
We talk golf, photography, golf course architecture and golf courses with the man behind @LinksGems, Jon Cavalier. Get to know Jon better and pick up a few tips on golf course photography and golf courses along the way. Follow Jon on Instagram and Twitter.Follow @LinksGems
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Episode 7: Keith Rhebb
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We talk with Keith Rhebb, one of golf's up and coming architects. Keith has worked for over a decade as an Associate for Coore and Crenshaw and recently finished up his first solo project teaming up with Riley Johns and Blake Conant to build Winter Park GC in Orlando Florida. Keith came on podcast and we talked about how he got into golf course architecture, his experience working with Bill Coore and Ben Crenshaw, the Winter Park project and his goals for the future. Follow @KeithRhebb
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Episode 6: Zac Blair
We talk PGA Tour and golf course architecture with PGA Tour pro Zac Blair! Topics range from Zac's unique path to the PGA Tour, his upcoming 2017 schedule, his golf course The Buck Club and a lot of golf course architecture talk. If you don't already follow Zac and the Buck Club on Twitter below. Follow @z_blairFollow @TheBuckClub
Episode 5: Vince India
We talked with Web.com Tour member Vince India about life as a professional golfer, both on and off the course.
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Episode 4: Rob Collins
We talk golf course architecture with golf course architect, Rob Collins. Rob is the principal designer of King Collins Design and responsible for the build and design of Sweetens Cove Golf Club. Listen here:
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Episode 3: USC Golf Coach Justin Silverstein
We bring back the podcast to talk some college golf with USC's Justin Silverstein! We cover a bevy of topics including USC's program and their fall season, the most impressive college players in the country, how college golf changed in the recent years, and what Justin expects from National Championship site Rich Harvest Farms.
the fried egg podcast: Episode 2 – Jim Herman
We spoke with PGA Tour winner Jim Herman about his career thus far, his win at the Shell Houston Open, how he's preparing for the Open Championship, life on tour and golf course architecture. Hope you enjoy!
Everyone is getting sued and LIV might buy TV time
This Friday episode was recorded on a personal free zoom account with the 40-minute time limit, so it cuts off abruptly at the end, and one person was in his car shouting at the bluetooth. Andy and Brendan close out the week discussing the back-and-forth flurry of lawsuits this week -- the PGA Tour counterclaiming against LIV, Pat Reed expanding his defamation suit to include more people and a different jurisdiction, and a slew of LIV boys dropping from its suit, leaving 3 cannon fodder possibilities. They also discuss the report of an imminent TV deal with Fox that would have LIV buying time to get on the air. Rory McIlroy’s comments on OWGR and eventual peace talks are reviewed. They close with a PrecisionPro #FBF on the 2007 Dunhill, where Rory earned his Euro Tour card in just his second pro start.
Dunhills, Peacocks, and a LIV Finale format change
This ramshackle Wednesday episode comes to you with Andy in a car and Brendan in a construction zone. The two try to make it snappy, hitting on the shhhhedule for the week, the importance of the Dunhill to the future of a bolstered European fall schedule, how the players can impose their will on that schedule, and what it might mean for the Sanderson, our other beloved event of the week. The back half of the podcast is on the news that LIV Golf has a format for its season finale or championship, with a dizzying mix of match and stroke play formats, teams calling out their opponents, and lots of cash. They discuss whether it’s a good, if not confusing and potentially incoherent, format to experiment with in Doral.
A Presidents Cup potpourri of winners and losers, and vindication for C-Bez
This Monday episode is a wide-ranging reaction to the Presidents Cup, which enjoyed an entertaining and more-competitive-than-expected weekend. Andy and Brendan discuss the weekend that was in Charlotte, but not without first swerving into a couple random topics like the excitement around a “clinching point” and “grit measurements.” Then they break things down with a revolutionary new format -- Winners and Losers. That leads them into the International team building, Trevor Immelman, Tom Kim, Justin Thomas vs. Si Woo, Max Homa, Spieth magic, Bassy, Canadian disasters, and the notion of Kevin Kisner as a match play specialist. It’s a rambling but somewhat comprehensive review of a strong weekend of match play.
Charlotte throttling and ennui, and Norman’s Prez Cup mutiny FBF
This Friday episode reacts to the first day at the Presidents Cup, where the USA took a 4-1 lead over the Internationals. Andy and Brendan discuss the lineups, who flopped and who impressed. They get into the agonizing pre-match ceremony, the playing-through golf, and the fight in the International side against what could just be a dominant era of American golf in all team events. The second half of the podcast is a Flashback Friday to the time when the International players, led by Greg Norman, fired their captain, David Graham, just a month or two before the 1996 Presidents Cup. It’s an amusing tale that’s hard to imagine happening now. They close with reactions to the lineups announced for Day 2 at Quail Hollow.
Pres Cup hope and despair, Billy boy’s moment, and LIV wants its damn points
This Wednesday episode serves as our official Presidents Cup preview. If you’ve come for picks, predictions, top points earner candidates, and pairings you want to see, well you’re in the wrong place. Andy and Brendan have a rambling discussion about people getting off shots at this Pres Cup, how badly the LIV losses wounded it, what happens if the Internationals win, and whether reform is needed. They also discuss Billy the Baton boy and the potential for drama both internal and abroad with the attack dog. Quail Hollow, as a venue, is panned. The later half deals with Patrick Reed heading to France to play the Euro Tour, and Greg Norman writing yet more letters to people who didn’t ask for them -- this time a pleading note to the OWGR board. Both Andy and Brendan discuss the justification for giving LIV points, and the likelihood of it happening.
A Silverado stunner and Steve Harvey comes to LIV Chicago
This episode is for all those people who have been waiting all day for Sunday night to avoid the Packers-Bears game. Andy and Brendan record right after a stunning turn at the Fortnite Champ, where Danny Willett booted it from three feet after Max Homa chipped in to successfully defend in Napa. They discuss some players making early impressions and the streaming/network experience doing the same for all the wrong reasons, especially up against a LIV stream at the same time. On LIV, they discuss that resolution that had minimal juice with what felt like an academic outcome, the commentators getting punchy, and Chase winning low Koepka for team Smash. They also delight in Steve Harvey’s repeated visits to the broadcast, his misnaming DJ, confessing it was the first golf event he’d ever been to, and Sergio’s odd and unexpected admiration. They close with a few more thoughts on the Italian Open, Portland Classic, and senior tour event.
Fitzy and majors tiers, LIV comes to “Chicago,” FBF on “the Math Castle”
This Friday episode begins with Italian Open leader Matt Fitzpatrick, and where he now sits among recent one-time majors winners as most likely to bag a second. That leads to an exercise breaking down first page leaderboard favorites at majors right now, going through the current upper crust of the game and pondering the future of Brooks and DJ. Those two will tee it up at Rich Harvest Farms, an underwhelming venue that may not be precisely what the pros are used to this weekend. Precision Pro Flashback Friday gets at the origin story of the Fortinet/Safeway’s move to Silverado, which was only supposed to be a stopgap venue as the event went back to an ultra private course next to a “math castle” with marble lions that spit water every hour. It’s a different but amusing #FBF on some of the myths around “The Institute” golf course.
Big Jay’s private plane usage, new season over-unders, and Ryder Cup prep in Italy
This delayed Wednesday episode drops on the heels of a WSJ story on Jay Monahan’s private plane usage, PGA Tour expenditures, questions about an “efficient” global home and “unusually fast” aircraft, a Tour with 750+ employees, and and tax filing language that put the whole place under the microscope in a way its not accustomed to. Andy and Brendan react to the article, both superficial and substantive. With the new season upon us, they get back to an SGS tradition: over-unders, with some serious and some not-so-serious. Shhhedule for the week focuses on the potential Ryder Cup prep taking place over in Italy, where a handful of Euro stars are playing while the Americans sit at home for the Pres Cup.
Wentworth’s strong finish, Sergio flees for Austin, and Scheffler’s POY
It’s Victory Monday! A jubilant Andy and Brendan begin with their 1-0 football teams, the controversy around the Bears flooded new field, and the Browns superstar kicker. Then it’s on to the European Tour’s flagship event that got Jon Rahm, Rory McIlroy, and Shane Lowry contending at the end. They praise Lowry’s year of consistency and win, then go over some insightful comments and his quip that he won this one “for the good guys.” Rory’s continued season is also reviewed, and there are some questions put to the floor about Viktor Hovland. Sergio’s abandonment of the event for the Texas-Alabama game is also critiqued. Pat Reed comments are reviewed as well! They close with a quick discussion on Scottie Scheffler’s POY win.
BMW PGA trimmed to 54 holes, FBF to the grand World Match Play at Wentworth
This is a meandering Friday episode that touches on tennis, the grim prospects for the Bears and Browns, and the death of the Queen. That last bit of news has altered the plans at the BMW PGA at Wentworth, where play was suspended on Thursday and Friday and the flagship event has been reduced to 54 holes. There will be jokes, probably from Sharky. They discuss the early sniping from the grounds and how everyone looks like a loser. Then it’s on to Flashback Friday, which is a longer trip on a host of memories from the grand World Match Play event that used to take place at Wentworth. They start on a specific edition that had Isao Aoki walking away “winning more money in one week than any golfer in history.” That broadens out to the origin of the event, its death, how it could be re-born today, and the themes of its start that feel relevant to today’s battles. There are also some specific stories about Gary Player with a sketchy drop and Greg Norman vowing “never to return.”
War of words at Wentworth, the Euro Tour’s future, and Pres Cup rosters finalized
This Wednesday episode begins by sifting through the various comments and call-outs that have occurred this week at the DP World Tour’s flagship event, where there’s a commingling of LIV players and non-LIV players in the same field. Andy and Brendan discuss the “cold hard facts” offered by CEO Keith Pelley, Rahm and Billy Boy’s critiques, Talor’s tweet retorts, Rory’s intimations about the future strategic alliance, and the motives of old guard players like Westy and Poulter. They also discuss the future of the Euro Tour as a “feeder tour” or simply as an occasional PGA Tour host in Europe. News focuses on DL3 and Trevor Immelman rounding out the Presidents Cup rosters with six picks each, with some thoughts and concerns about Kevin Kisner getting the last spot on the U.S. side.
LIV Boston delivers…something? Legitimacy? An American winner in DJ
This Labor Day episode is largely a discussion of the LIV Boston event and where this disruptor league might be heading. Andy and Brendan discuss the tension between the curiosity factor from its initial events wearing off against the context for the league that builds with each event. They discuss how Westy’s abominable gag may be the surest sign yet that this is legitimate competition. They are increasingly bought in on the entertainment appeal of the 54-hole format and the shotgun start. TV deal rumors are also pondered. There is praise for another KFT finals Sunday delivering, and a hypothetical about what’s to stop LIV from taking a run at Justin Suh. They hit on the season plus playoffs format of handing out 50 cards continuing to work, but with the usual appeal for more movement once in-season. Lucy Li’s work on the LPGA is covered. They close with some spicy quotes on the upcoming Wentworth commingling, as well as some Minor League Golf Tour talk given Eric Cole’s success at KFT Finals.
Bubba’s here “to serve,” the worst LIV team, and #FBF to a Shark-led watch war
It’s Friday going into a holiday weekend so Andy and Brendan are quite cheery for this week-ending episode. They begin with a few random thoughts and another round of “unsubstantiated rumor Friday” that’s centered mostly on LIV vs. PGA Tour stuff. Bubba’s amusing comments about serving others as a reason for joining LIV are examined, as are HV3’s rationalizations for joining. Then they review a couple Grumpy Old Men firing off takes about LIV with another amusing Gary Player rant. They debate the worst LIV team -- both in golfing ability and least you’d want to hang out with. Precision Pro Flashback Friday is on the sour end of Greg Norman as a Presidents Cup captain, and how a watch war may have been at the center of his sudden overthrow.
LIV’s latest signees, the Hideki conundrum, and KFT Finals
Andy and Brendan close out the month of August with this Wednesday episode on the latest round of LIV signees making their debuts in Boston. They discuss Cam Smith’s rationalizations for leaving, Joaquin Niemann making his decision, and how they represent a new element for the LIV collective. That transitions to the one big whale LIV did not get -- this round at least -- in Hideki Matsuyama. They discuss how Hideki represents something more, a different level of star and a non-monetary aspect that maybe cannot be covered with a massive upfront fee. That then transitions to how good those who stay might have it on the PGA Tour, with the cash as good as ever and now some of the competition for it gone. There’s sadness about the cleaning out of Team Torque. Schedule for the week focuses on names to watch at the KFT finals as those last 25 spots close up this weekend in Indiana.
Rory the Courier Cup King, a great Tour Champ, and LIV raids the Pres Cup
Andy and Brendan are buzzing as they hit record shortly after watching that Sunday duel between Rory McIlroy and Scottie Scheffler at the Tour Championship. They discuss the fallacy of the entertainment being a “win for the format.” They praise Rory for the longevity of his greatness, critique Scottie for a poor day in an otherwise excellent year, and revel in a rewarding day of golf-watching to finish off the season. After plenty of Rory and Scottie talk, they get to the news of another batch of LIV defections that would significantly harm the Presidents Cup. Some were expected, others were a mild surprise, including Joaquin Niemann, who was just in that Delaware meeting plotting the future of the Tour. During the LIV chat, they also note some fairly alarming quotes from Cam Young. They close with the continued but amusing incoherence of James Hahn.
Immediate sweeping changes to the PGA Tour, next moves for Jay, and crediting Phil
August is winding down but the summer of upheaval and change in pro golf continues with the PGA Tour announcing its next move in the battle against LIV. It’s a series of moves, really, dramatically re-shaping what the Tour is, who controls it, and acknowledging some truths that many have been shouting about for years. Andy and Brendan discuss the new “elevated” tour, how it will all fit into the schedule, who should get the credit (thank u Mr. Mickelson!), and if Jay Monahan and his team are the right people to implement it all going forward. They also discuss the notion that the Tour copied LIV. Rory and Tiger’s new TGL project is also pondered at length, as Monday Night golf returns in a new way.
Laser focused on our players, our partners, and our fans
It’s a lively Wednesday episode with tenuous WiFi on both ends for Andy and Brendan. They begin with breaking news that Kapalua will now permanently be the Tournament of Mostly Champions. This leads to further discussion on the Tour Champ, the discarding of history, a low net and gross disaster, and how it could be re-made by going west. That transitions to more thoughts on the NLU report about the Rory/Tiger concept and where exactly the room comes on the schedule and how best to execute it. The Will Zalatoris injury is a big blow and also reveals the weakness of the staggered start net championship. Schedule for the week has a Canadian bent to it. News of a joint Rory-Tiger venture that has eradicated vowels is discussed even though there are minimal details yet. The PGA of America’s Frisco home got its big reveal, so they dive into from Global Home comps before getting out.
Details of Tiger/Rory meeting emerge and a quality weekend of BMW and U.S. Am
This episode begins with some Monday positivity, both with impressions of the BMW Championship and reporting about the meeting that went down there. Andy and Brendan react to the NLU report with the list of names and what exactly was proposed -- a “top tier” circuit within a larger PGA Tour. They discuss how this makes Monahan and other Tour bureaucrats look and react and where it might go from here. There’s some further approval of the BMW and the stakes of it, including kind words for Patrick Cantlay after another win. They discuss a Golfweek report on another Tiger-Rory endeavor about one-day non-green grass events. The U.S. Amateur is reviewed, with praise for the spice some of the final four provided both with quotes and style. They close it by reviewing the rest of the weekend’s results and a few comments on the death of Tom Weiskopf.
Skimpy Amateur coverage, Pat Reed’s lawsuit, and LIV contract details
The cup of the content gods runneth over as golf’s summer of absurdity and existential crisis continued this week with an outlandish Pat Reed defamation lawsuit against Brandel Chamblee, incoherent tweets from a PGA Tour player advisory council member, last week’s PGA Tour winner having to disown a ranting “mentor,” a Tiger Woods attended players meeting to combat LIV, contents of LIV contracts coming out in the WSJ, and more. It’s been a week, and Andy and Brendan meander about in all that, while also discussing the great golf watching at the U.S. Amateur, where (good!) coverage comes on and goes off in what feels like indiscriminate fashion. There’s also some amusement in Paul Azinger comments on this week’s BMW venue, compared to Patrick Cantlay’s thoughts. The episode closes with a Precision Pro Flashback Friday on the 1990 U.S. Amateur, won by a brash Phil Mickelson over former HS teammate turned foe Manny Zerman, whose own legend is explored a bit during the segment.
Tiger flies in for an anti-LIV rally, Cam Smith flees, and U.S. Am name game
This Wednesday episode is out early as Andy and Brendan react to news of a players-only meeting that will include a visit from Tiger Woods as the remaining PGA Tour loyalists try to rally the troops and also discuss, reportedly, the job security of commissioner Jay Monahan and major championship boycotts. They ponder the meeting in light of the news that Cam Smith, rumored LIV boy, has withdrawn from the BMW. The U.S. Amateur is given the event of the week, with some top names and amusing names highlighted, Ridgewood previewed, and the meandering TV schedule panned. Does NBCUni just have too many golf rights and is this week proof of that? They get off some BMW Champ one-and-dones, a few notes about Wilmington, and then to an angry reaction to the news that the once historic Western Open will go to Baltimore and St. Louis in two upcoming years, with Chicago slated to host just once in a six-year span.
A Willy Z breakthrough, Cam Smith jammed, and KFT promotions
This Monday episode begins with a discussion on the dynamics of youth birthday parties before jumping into the thrilling conclusion to the first leg of the Courier Cup Playoffs. Andy and Brendan discuss the strutting and putting of Will Zalatoris, who clinched his first victory on the PGA Tour in a circus-like playoff against the Sepptic Tank. It was a potentially ugly day for the PGA Tour that finished with a bang. They react to the bizarre Cam Smith penalty and the LIV conspiracy theories that followed. Saki Baba’s dominant U.S. Women’s Am victory is discussed, as is host site Chambers Bay and the unfortunate reality that we may never see a U.S. Open there again thanks to the ridiculous pre-advance booking at a few anchor sites. The final regular season event on the Korn Ferry Tour is also discussed at the end, with praise for Michael Kim, a pronunciation debate for Kevin Roy, and a schedule lament that buries one of the Tour’s best days behind the playoffs.
“These 3 poor kids” from LIV lose their TRO against the PGA Tour
Typically, mid-August is for getting away and golf slowing down despite what the FedEx Cup marketing might try to make you believe. Andy and Brendan had that in mind with various vacation and work travels planned, but they did not expect such significant and entertaining golf news to develop this week. So Brendan sits in the car outside a beach house, while Andy scoots through rural Nebraska in his own vehicle, and the result is this episode discussing the LIV plaintiffs lawyer making a fool of himself at the TRO hearing in California, the completely unsympathetic Gooch-Swafford-Jones trio, and the Tour having to acknowledge some hard truths in order to craft winning arguments. They also discuss world No. 2 Cam Smith reportledy jumping ship next month to LIV, and many other things in an episode that did not feel like it would get off the ground.
A playoff into darkness, Tom the Tank chugs into the postseason, the McGreevy triumph
It’s a live recording with Andy and Brendan in front of some fine Philly folks ahead of the Fried Egg event in town on Monday. It’s the first applause they can recall during a recording with an audience so after a few comments about the locals, they dive into the weekend that was in golf. They start with the Women’s Open at Muirfield, which went deep into the night during an interminable playoff with Ash Buhai eventually prevailing. They discuss her roller coaster weekend, her eager significant other jumping into the frame, and how Muirfield played for the women. Then it’s on to Playoffs talk, with ample time set aside for more Max McGreevy facts and appreciation. Tom Kim is given his due with some stories of his first moments in the States. They also delight in the Comcast Top 10 being neglected during its most pivotal moment. They close with the odd Zalatoris caddy break-up and some thoughts on the LIV TRO hearing coming on Tuesday.
The LIV lawsuit arrives and alleges, PGA Tour replies, and Women’s Open Flashback
This Friday episode begins with the 100-plus page complaint filed by 11 LIV players against the PGA Tour, as well as the temporary restraining order that will go to court next week. Andy and Brendan react to the complaint, its allegations and arguments, and the PGA Tour’s potential missteps and response going forward. They highlight a couple aspects they find compelling, dubious, and amusing in the whole mess that will be instrumental in how the future of golf looks, with an antitrust expert coming later in the week on the podcast to get into more of the details. The second half of the pod discusses early action from Muirfield at the Women’s Open, Webb Simpson becoming a vice captain, and a Flashback Friday to that time a scorecard “countback” decided the Women’s Open.
A women’s major at Muirfield, PGA Tour’s schedule release, Tiger’s LIV offer
This Wednesday episode begins with some thoughts on the last major of the year, the AIG Women’s Open at Muirfield. Andy and Brendan discuss their recent trip to the course, some favorite holes, some amusing stories, and how the women’s game might bring it into the modern world. On the PGA Tour, they discuss the myth of the FEC bubble and how many players hovering around it are truly unworthy of a “postseason” berth after this week’s Wyndham. This leads to more Max McGreevy facts than you could ever anticipate. James Hahn’s weird and misguided tweets are dissected, as is the new PGA Tour schedule, which seems to do nothing more than throw some money at the problems while changing very little else. News hits on Tiger Woods’s astronomical offer to join LIV, Patrick Reed going to Asia to play golf, and a Henrik Stenson conspiracy theory.
A “s**t sandwich” of golf in Detroit and at LIV, Tour’s next moves, and childish Henrik
It’s a glorious first of the month recording, which has Andy and Brendan full of energy despite the relatively sleepy golf from multiple fronts at the Rocket Mortgage and LIV Bedminster. They discuss the confusion and lack of enthusiasm around the actual team golf at LIV, the political rally that seemed to make the golf incidental, the absurdly overhyping announcers, and the Tour’s own continued problems on display weighing it down in Detroit. They also debate who’s sadder: Phil or Brooks? The Women’s Scottish and the Hero Open are reviewed from across the pond. They close with further amusement about the 3-1-3 Challenge and Henrik still feeling persecuted about losing his captaincy.
A Friday LIV Rumor & Amusement Mill, Luke Donald for captain, more DL3 angst
It’s a summer hours Friday episode, which begins with some LIV rumors of varying degrees of amusement, from gambling shortcomings to developments in Thursday’s pro-am at Trump Bedminster to some agronomy specs for events. News of Luke Donald replacing Henrik Stenson as European Ryder Cup captain is discussed, which leads to a Precision Pro Flashback Friday on the time Paul Casey drew him into an international incident slamming Americans for being insular. There’s continued incredulity about Davis Love III’s role in Detroit.
LIV circus comes to Trump NJ, a featured groups rant, and another shadow FEC list
This Wednesday episode begins with LIV’s return to the schedule for the week. Andy and Brendan laugh at Laurie Canter getting passed around, the decrepit Niblicks squad, and the moderate interest in the actual golf. They lament the lack of access to any of these players, who will be off for more than a month between LIV events. There is more Stenson scorn, some warning about contracts as they relate to the “relegation” concept or lack thereof, and the PGA Tour’s potential parroting of that contract model. The added events for next year that might commit players to an international series in far flung corners of the globe is discussed. Davis Love III making it into a featured group for the Rocket Mortgage Classic is shouted about, in between praise for the event’s mission and character. The Euro Tour returns to fake St. Andrews, and the helicopter parents head to Bandon for the Junior Am. They close with yet another shadow FedExCup eligibility list that deals with the suspended LIV players.
Duplicitous Henrik heads to LIV, Rain Delay Brooke, and Backboarding Tony
Andy and Brendan have returned to the U.S., where they’re longing for some aspects of their Scotland trip while happy to have other comforts of home back in their lives. They offer a few more takeaways of appreciation from that trip, as well as a harsh judgment on fish and chips. Then they get to the golf from the packed weekend, praising Brooke Henderson for her second major while offering a mild critique about her pace of play and how she’s underrated relative to some of her less accomplished peers. Tony Finau’s triumph is reviewed, with some late shakiness after a strong back nine to take his second win in less than a year. Husky Darren Clarke and Richie Ramsay are also credited for their wins. News returns to the LIV developments from late last week, where Henrik Stenson’s backstabbing disgraceful betrayal is put on blast, and there’s befuddlement over what Charles Howell III does for LIV.
Old Course impressions, LIV bags Feherty, and PGA Tour’s messaging problem
Summer School in Scotland rolls on and Andy and Brendan have a few more thoughts on The Open, specifically Rory’s performance, after a magical afternoon getting to play The Old Course themselves. Then they get back to the pro golf at hand, namely the 3M Open at TPC Sod Farm, described in one write-up as utilizing “natural, rolling terrain on the site of a former sod farm.” They discuss the Tour’s messaging, which is apparently foremost of what they care about, and how the 3M Open actually exhibits weakness to the point it would be best if they just took a few weeks off following The Open. The women’s and senior majors are previewed, with critiques for two poor venues. The LIV latest is discussed, with David Feherty making the jump and Ernie Els with some sage advice on how this should all shake out, including specific comments on new Champion Golfer of the Year Cam Smith.
Sunday at The Open: Cam’s charge, Did Rory go too safe, and LIV again
A magical week for Andy and Brendan at The Open comes to a close with this recap episode after the final round at The Old Course. After walking with Cam, Rory, and the rest, they relay what they saw and why it shook out the way it did. Cam’s legendary final round is dissected, with a few key spots and shots picked out that seemed to turn the tide in the final hours. The Rory heartbreak is reviewed, with debate on whether he played it too safe or just got beat by the hot talent. There’s one more occasion to reflect on and praise The Old Course, which had both feeling grateful to be present for this particular major. They discuss how it played and why it separated again on Sunday. Cam Young gets his due, as does a certain housecat. Then they wrangle with LIV returning to our lives promptly, with the new Champion Golfer of the Year not exactly shooting down questions about rampant LIV rumors surrounding him, Jon Rahm suggesting the tours negotiate with some strong words for the Euro Tour, and Henrik Stenson apparently jumping ship and losing his Ryder Cup captaincy.
Saturday at The Open: Rory’s moment, Seagull impacts, Contender/Pretender
It’s Saturday night in St. Andrews and Andy and Brendan recap just about a perfect day both in town and out on the golf course. They discuss the crowd imploring Rory along, Cam Smith’s disappointment, the course setup that had Matt Fitzpatrick saying things were “tricked up,” and Viktor Hovland’s challenge. They also hit on an Andy tussling with Ian Poulter on the press conference transcript, and the confusion that followed. Talor vs. Tyrell is reviewed, Graeme McDowell’s idiotic tweet about shotgun starts at St. Andrews is covered, and there’s a theory about seagulls impacting play. They close with some contender vs. pretender and how it’s all right there for Rory.
Friday at The Open: Tiger Farewell and Cameron Zone Arrival
This Friday episode is a lively recap from the day at St. Andrews, where Andy and Brendan dove into a few conspiracies, conjured some new enemies, and celebrated both the Cameron Zone and Tiger’s potential farewell to The Old Course. Cameron Smith and the Aussie advantage on this hard ground is covered, as is Rory’s adjustment in a changing wind. They close with some thoughts on the course, the pins, and the LIV presence persisting on the leaderboard, as well as a few worst-case scenarios.
Thursday at The Open: Concrete Jungle Cam, Rory’s move, and Tiger’s tumble
Andy and Brendan are live from the dorm room overlooking the 18th fairway at St. Andrews, where they spent the day taking in all manner of amusements, spectacular play, poor play, and a firm and fiery Old Course that is challenging the pros in a unique way. They discuss some quotes from Talor, Westy, and Rory that sort of frame the day full of almost 16 hours of golf. The course conditions and shots witnessed up close are relayed in an on-the-ground report. The question to leader Cameron Young about being from the streets of the Bronx is given ample coverage, and laughter. Phil’s bizarre morning and Tiger’s late tumble are also covered, as is the Scheffler disrespect.
An Open Preview from St. Andrews: Tiger talks, firm & fiery, and a Zatch tale
Andy and Brendan record this Open preview from their dorm room overlooking the Swilken bridge, passing along notes and amusements after a couple days from the ground. They begin first with an Andy order mishap that put him on the shelf for the first day. Then it’s on to a wide-ranging course chat, mostly about the firmness, the options, how it might play and what skills might come in handy most, and some holes to keep an eye on. The course is the star as much as anyone and they relay a handful of notes both from player comments and their own walking. Then they rip through the quotable segment, pulling out details for Spieth, JT, Rory, Tiger, and Zalatoris, who all came through the media center on Tuesday. The pre-major tradition of highlighting a few favorite tee times commences, with a focus on the LIV boys being absolutely buried out of marquee group view. They close with Tiger’s comments on LIV, a lengthy and multi-faceted denunciation. News hits on the DOJ investigation into the PGA Tour as it pertains to LIV, before a sign off with a few more thoughts on The Open with one more day to go.
First walks at St. Andrews, X-Man gets out of the house, Greg Norman disinvited by R&A
This Monday episode comes to you just after midnight in Scotland, where Andy and Brendan completed a walk through The Old Course for the first time. They offer some first impressions and thoughts about what they saw, both on the course and with one solo player. Then they move on to some results, asking it Xander’s Scottish Open win is the best of his career, which now has as many Ws as Jon Rahm. The recap on the Senior Players somehow devolves into an extended Frank Lickliter II segment. News hits on some early shuffling at The Open, like Greg Norman being asked not to show up by the R&A, Phil withdrawing from the Champions event, and Tiger’s first practice rounds and prospects, which includes a conspiracy theory.
Is Rory softening on LIV and Scottish Open delights
This episode begins with Andy and Brendan discussing excitement and anticipation over their imminent departure for Scotland and what they’re most excited about once they get there. Then they get to Rory McIlroy’s eye-opening comments to the BBC earlier this week, in which he said the LIV vs. the PGA Tour battle has been messier than it ever should have gotten and suggested a way the two sides chat. Is this a momentous tone shift in the battle between the two? That leads to further discussion about PGA Tour strategy to mitigate or neutralize an opponent that perhaps they’ve underestimated from the start. Mercifully, there is golf talk on the Scottish Open, Big Shot Bob Allenby falling to DFL at the Senior Players, and DL3’s case of the “Pelley yips.”
LIV vs. PGA Tour intensifies with lawyers, “hypocrites,” and Talor pronounced “Talor”
This Tuesday episode is a compilation from the holiday weekend happenings and a look forward at the schedule ahead as coffee golf peaks for the year. Andy and Brendan offer some thoughts on the conclusion to the second LIV event in Portland and how it felt like another sign that this is a ship that won’t be slowed. Talor Gooch’s comments and the Shark reveling are critiqued as well. Then they discuss the ongoing volley of public comments among players, especially as the Scottish Open takes center stage and LIV players enlist lawyers to gain last-minute entry. There’s also a thought that peer shame could be a more effective deterrent than any bans. Jon Rahm’s comments to “de-americanize” a Ryder Cup venue in Ireland are covered, along with J.T. Poston’s victory and a grow-the-game moment for Poland. This week’s schedule is previewed with excitement for the Scottish, the issues with it now being co-sanctioned, and the Barbasol’s field list.
LIV “goosebumps,” Fred Couples slams Phil, and #FBF on the Quad Cities survival
This Friday episode reacts to another actual golf round on the LIV tour, but first there’s a sports minute on KD and more college conference shenanigans, leading to a Greg Norman-Robert Sarver comp. Then it’s on to LIV Portland, where the broadcast was completely over the top in its overhype and propaganda. Andy and Brendan discuss what was stronger -- namely, some real players -- and what continues to be lacking. There’s news of this transition from a “series” to a “league” for next year. A quote carousel focuses on more Gooch stupidity, some heat from Freddie Couples on LIV and Phil, and the 3M Open guy deciding to also launch some grenades. Flashback Friday is a short history on the recurring fight for the Quad Cities Classic, now the John Deere, to stay alive, with anecdotes from three different decades and the background on how TPC Deere Run came into existence.
Phony, indignant & deluded in Portland, while a “strategic alliance” strengthens
This Wednesday episode is overflowing with the bounty that the content gods continue to provide. Andy and Brendan did not intend to start with LIV, but a remark here and there near the top, and 30 minutes of harsh words, laughs at specious explanations, and many, many expletives (EARMUFFS kids!) later, well, they went on a lot about Brooks, Reed, Perez, Bryson, and Wolff’s Portland performances. There are also some thoughts about the many shortcomings and make-it-up-as-we-go state of the current LIV product. The second half of the pod is largely dedicated to more significant PGA Tour changes, including the announcement of strengthened “strategic alliance” with the Euro Tour and more various pathways to the PGA Tour. Do they need to get leaner, not more alliance-y? The John Deere featured groups are discussed as well, with one put up as the “WOAT” in the history of pga tour featured groups coverage.
Another Lexi collapse, Xander edges Theegala, and LIV targets the youths
Golf delivered again on Sunday with compelling dramas, handshake controversies, and coverage angst. Andy and Brendan begin with the Women’s PGA Championship, where Lexi Thompson had another torturous Sunday collapse in a major. They compare it to last year’s slow bleed at Olympic, and wonder how she can keep coming back. There are also some kind words on Congressional and harsher words for the pace of play and a skimpy broadcast window. Xander’s weekend at the Travelers is assessed, both good and bad, and the thrill of Theegala, both good and bad, is also praised. They ponder the Tour’s next move in light of Pierceson Coody’s impressive showing after turning down LIV money while Oklahoma State stud Eugenio Chacarra turned pro to take the LIV cash. Nick Faldo’s segment on Brooks running off to LIV is also discussed. Finally, there’s delight and appreciation expressed for Haotong and Paddy’s victories.
Big Jay’s press conference on LIV, Congo complaints, and Flashback Friday
This Friday episode is here to carry you into the weekend with some thoughts on the Women’s PGA Championship beating up the best in the world early in the week, and the meritless complaints about it being too hard and long. There’s some brief chatter about the Prince’s push in Hartford and Living and Working in Maine. Then there’s a review of Jay Monahan’s press conference in Hartford, with particular ire for his comments about dealing with an “irrational actor” or opponent. Flashback Friday is on the old McDonald’s LPGA Championship and centers around Suzann Pettersen and Se Ri Pak victories, as well as some Michelle Wie controversies that had one legend saying she showed “a lack of respect and class.”
PGA Tour punches back, Brooks bails, Faldo flees, and Congo returns
This delayed Wednesday episode begins with some big changes proposed to the PGA Tour’s structure, namely trimming some of the fat with their status scheme. There are, once again, tweaks proposed for the playoffs and a three-event cash grab tour in the fall. Andy and Brendan discuss all these proposals, how they might work, and if they will matter in the fight against LIV. Stick around for the ad read on this one as well, as they might get in trouble. One name defecting to LIV is Brooks Koepka, and his decision is panned in light of his recent statements. There’s also significant room allotted to Nick Faldo stepping away and Trevor Immelman stepping in at CBS. Shhhhedule for the week focuses on a logjam of major golf, starting with the Women’s PGA at Congressional, which should show beautifully. The Travelers, Senior Open, and BMW Euro event are also discussed with varying degrees of amusements at the fields.
Sunday at the U.S. Open from the Precision Pro House in Boston
Andy and Brendan settle back in at the PrePro house to revel and review in all they witnessed at The Country Club, both on Sunday and throughout the weekend. They begin with appreciation for what a major can deliver, golf and competition that matter on stages that feel consequential. Then it's on to Matt Fitzpatrick’s play and his breakthrough major -- the chase for speed and the shots he pulled off on Sunday. Another Will Zalatoris run at contention is contextualized after a weekend of playing maybe the best golf of anyone in the field. Scottie Scheffler’s “sound” is critiqued, as well as the Rahm and Rory rounds. Then they get to TCC as a venue, course, and host city, which leads to some spicy laments about the anchor sites taking up so much future real estate.
Saturday at the U.S. Open from the Precision Pro House in Boston
Andy and Brendan are absolutely buzzing after an amazing day at the U.S. Open in Boston. They start with some tales from the ground, which included following Will Zalatoris, Rory McIlroy, Jon Rahm, Scottie Scheffler, and others who populate this fantastic leaderboard. ESPN’s Kevin Van Valkenburg pops in with an amusing anecdote or two from his time following Rory and others. They lament the potential TIO stain that could be left on this championship, as well as chant heard on Saturday the likes of which we will never hear again. Also, were tee times too late? Did darkness impact the finish? Aside from these few conspiracy theories, there’s general excitement and praise from a great day at the national championship.
Friday at the U.S. Open from the Precision Pro House in Boston
Andy and Brendan assess this 2022 U.S. Open at its midpoint, bringing three things from Friday that they feel are prime for discussion. They begin with #SyringeGate and the USGA watering the greens in the middle of the round when a storm was forecasted to roll through and the wind settled later in the afternoon. There are pleas for a tougher set up, but praise for the skills The Country Club is testing right now. DJ’s LIV comments are also discussed. They review Jon Rahm’s charge, Rory hanging on, Joely steering it in, Phil’s irrelevance, and a startling Law & Order SVU scene they were subjected to in the media center.
Thursday at the U.S. Open from the Precision Pro House in Boston
Andy and Brendan are back from The Country Club and posted up at The Precision Pro House. They have a few thoughts on what they watched up close in the first round of the U.S. Open. There’s exasperation with the rampant LIV rumors, praise for Rory’s day and his tempestuous outbursts, and schadenfreude at Phil’s expected no-show. There are a couple “most disappointing” nominees, including frustration with the USGA setup of Brookline, which was characterized as “doughy.”
A U.S. Open Live Show from Downtown Boston
This is a recording from SGS’s live gathering at the USGA’s 19th Hole at High Street Place Food Hall in Downtown Boston. It features a recap from Wednesday on the ground at the U.S. Open, including some thoughts on the USGA’s press conference with Mike Whan and John Bodenhamer, and a few names not to consider after witnessing some alarming shots. Andy and Brendan also have a spectator’s guide segment on some places to watch from the ground and on TV. There’s a debate over whether there’s a “US Open player.” And they close with a fun Q&A session with some amusing inquiries from both Twitter and the live audience.
A U.S. Open preview and the LIV undercurrents at Brookline
Andy and Brendan are live from the Precision Pro House in Boston, where they’re on site after a full day at the U.S. Open. They begin with Brooksy getting pissy with the press for talking too much about LIV, but relay how that battle for pro golf’s future is dominating every conversation with different stakeholders on the ground this week. That may change once the balls are in the air on Thursday, and they go long with a full preview of how the course has looked so far this week, some potential trouble spots, and why the USGA might be fearful of actually pushing the envelope. They also discuss the reception Phil’s received and might receive during the championship. The usual “favorite tee times” segment of major week yields some laughs about a few peculiar trios. Lastly, they close with reports of the DP World Tour possibly turning on the strategic alliance with the PGA Tour to get in bed with the Saudis.
Rory the Warrior Prince, Jay Monahan surfaces, and LIV London fades out
U.S. Open week has arrived but there’s plenty to dispense with from a monumental weekend in the professional game. Andy and Brendan begin first with Rory McIlroy’s win at the Canadian Open, battling JT in front of a full-throated crowd and then taking a shot at Greg Norman on the way out of town. They praise most of the product on display, while cautioning against extrapolating anything larger from it. Jay Monahan’s appearance in the booth on CBS is critiqued, and they wonder what’s possibly next for the commish. The LIV Saturday finale is reviewed and it’s debated whether “exhibition” is the perfect term for that snoozefest finish where the only thing notable was the payout. They close by hailing Linn Grant’s dominance in a mixed event, as well as the lopsided Curtis Cup that may need to broaden the net. Lastly, the pro shop currently has a Father’s Day sale ongoing, with some new Brookline-themed polos and other merch -- everything is 15% off auto-applied at checkout.
The LIV debut, the PGA Tour response, and Andy’s Majesticks
This Friday episode jumps right into a whirlwind day that may be the start of fundamentally changed pro golf landscape. Andy and Brendan react to the first broadcast of the first ever LIV Golf round. Did it surpass expectations or devolve into the shitshow that was anticipated? Did the golf even matter? Where is the leaderboard?! They discuss the amusements and disappointments, and who came off most debased as sportswasher of the day. Then they get into the PGA Tour’s announcement that all defectors were suspended, and what that might actually mean in practice. Some legal counsel who’s been digging through the bylaws sends along a few thoughts of how things might go next or different options available to players. They also discuss if Jay Monahan can save his tour with the status quo, and how pro golf is all going to be worse off for this.
Phil returns, LIV’s got team names, logos, and a crooked draft
An episode trying to cover and make sense of the absolute firehose of absurdity that hit all of us on Tuesday. It begins with frustration that the firehose buried what should have been gnarly metaverse Jack Nicklaus’s moment. Nevertheless, Andy and Brendan proceed on, reacting, with great amusement, to the names, logos, and eventual draft of teams for LIV Golf’s first event. They discuss how the PGA Tour had this coming, and how the resigning membership maneuver may mitigate the Tour’s biggest weapon. The talking points got plenty of use, and Graeme McDowell’s missteps are dissected, as well as the notion that shotgun starts are “fairer” -- which leads to a humorous scoop about the range set up. Phil Mickelson’s return to golf, which feels like old news, is addressed, as is his attire and look. Tiger’s WD from the U.S. Open, as well as some sectional qualifier stories, are also discussed.
Minjee and Billy run away, Kevin Na resigns
This Monday episode begins with tales from the red-eye road and the line at the bagel shop. Then it’s on to the second women’s major winner of the year, Minjee Lee, who ran away from a strong leaderboard in a record-setting U.S. Women’s Open win. Her Sunday stroll to what she called the most important trophy she wanted combined with Billy Horschel’s relatively dominant win in Columbus provokes a debate about whether it’s reductive or insulting to call runaway victories boring as competitions. Jerry Kelly is hailed as the Alker Stopper. Then they pivot to Kevin Na resigning from the PGA Tour, whether Rickie’s next, and some scuttlebutt about the OWGR system further marginalizing the Asian Tour as a response.
Scores too low for a U.S. open, LIV momentum, and #FBF on Cristie Kerr
This Friday episode begins with some early reaction to the U.S. Women’s Open, where Mina Harigae made nine birdies in her opening round. This prompted the usual wails about fairways too wide and rough too thin, which leads to another setup philosophy discussion. Precision Pro Flashback Friday focuses on a Pine Needles U.S. Open of past as well as the larger theme on ascendant youths in championship women’s golf. A news roundup touches on Jerry Foltz going to LIV as a broadcaster, Texas winning the national title, and these wild suspended-in-the-sky seats at the Canadian Open.
The LIV London List Arrives: DJ, Phil, and the PGA Tour’s next move
This bonus episode comes after LIV Golf at long last released its field list for the first event in London, which is in just more than a week. Andy and Brendan discuss the field, the DJ inclusion, the Phil omission, the field fillers, amusing detritus, and who was maybe left in reserve for later events. The PGA Tour’s next move, especially with regards to DJ, is also pondered. They discuss what it might mean for the rest of this year, and then the future of professional golf, and that may not be a good thing apart from the majors.
LIV list delays, Women’s Open returns to Pine Needles, and NCAA coaches in bunkers
This Monday plus Wednesday episode begins with a mea culpa after the first episode of the week relied on information that the LIV field list was coming. So it’s a combo show of sorts, first ranting about the LIV organizational incompetencies, and then quickly cleaning up some thoughts from Colonial, with further questions about Tour golf vs. majors golf and Sam Burns’s place in that tension. Then the schedule for this week begins with some NCAA men’s reactions, notably, the overly hands-on approach by the coaches, who are now playing around in the sand with their charges. Also, the swing speeds of the field at NCAAs. Memorial gets some praise as a unique test for Tour golf. The event of the week is the U.S. Women’s Open, with a preview segment discussing Pine Needles as a venue, Annika’s return, Nelly’s return, the age distribution in the field, and a Stars of the Sandhills nominee that highlights the continued youth challengers coming through the ranks.
Flashback Friday on the “greatest NCAAs ever” with Golf Channel’s Brentley Romine
This is a slightly different Friday show, as an entire Precision Pro FBF segment turns into an episode. Golf Channel’s Brentley Romine recently researched and published an oral history on the 2012 NCAA men’s championships at Riviera, featuring a nail-biter between two juggernauts in Alabama and Texas and three-dozen players that would go pro, including headliners Jordan Spieth, Justin Thomas, Brooks Koepka, Daniel Berger, Thomas Pieters, Max Homa, and many more. Brentley takes us through the timeline and sets up the drama for this legendary championship, much of which was not caught on video. Frugal Fritelli also plays a prominent role and stirs things up for his Texas team. The episode ends with some thoughts about the Texas program and whether it underachieves similar to the football team, and then how the NCAAs have risen in stature in recent years.
Thirsty Chuck Schwab, Appliance corruption, and LPGA schedule snafus
This Wednesday episode comes a bit delayed with Andy on the road fleeing the morose Chicagoland area still dealing with Fitzy’s fade. Brendan promptly gets into the schedule for the week, beginning with Colonial, where Charles Schwab is handing out all manner of perks -- cars, belt buckles, and potentially a second tartan jacket in as many months for Jordan Spieth. The Stand Up Mixer Senior Championship is the subject of a great catnip call of the week. The LPGA is once again holding a 5-day match play event in a desert on the other side of the country from next week’s major, so that’s critiqued. There’s material from the ground in Holland ahead of the Dutch Open. News hits on a few LIV rumors and debates the worst courtside experience for an NBA game. They close with a “Stars of the Sandhills” segment, a short flashlight on Minjee Lee and her Australian upbringing and ascent ahead of next week’s U.S. Women’s Open, where she’ll be a contender at Pine Needles.
Sunday at the PGA: JT’s charge, Mito’s mistake, and Rory’s disappointment
Another major is in the books, and Andy and Brendan begin this episode discussing how this was one you had to really work for to get some action. It was a sluggish weekend, and then it quickly wasn’t, as Justin Thomas stormed back into contending position while the leaders fell back in a variety of ways. They break up the episode into winners and losers, beginning obviously with Justin Thomas, assessing his strike on Sunday and his overall place in the game. There’s empathy for Mito, and incredulity about his 18th hole process. There’s also plenty of props for Will Zalatoris, while a frank discussion of his weaknesses and his ability to rise at majors. Rory’s absolutely crushing weekend, and his decision to blow off any discussion of it with the media, is covered. And then there’s the Southern Hills review, praise for a week without “silliness” and rebuttal of some of the player complaints.
Saturday at the PGA: Mito hangs on, Rory abdicates, and Tiger WDs
This Saturday night episode begins with an apology for our horrible Contender/Pretender predictions, a simply unacceptable performance for a gambling podcast. Then it’s on to the breaking news of Tiger Woods’s withdrawal, and the uninformed takes that will flow from it. They react to the third round as well, giving Mito his due for balling out and assessing his chances for Sunday. There’s some critical intel on Matt Fitzpatrick’s prep, and anticipation for a Chicago party. Rory McIlroy’s horrendous performance is dealt with and everyone involved, including GolfPass, is called to account. There’s a best cast/worst case segment on Sunday possibilities, and a debate over more likely backdoor top 5: Rory or Xander. The episode closes with the idiotic comments of Patton Kizzire on Southern Hills.
Friday at the PGA: Contenders, Pretenders, and Tiger crossing the line
This Friday episode begins with more cat talk, but this one’s all about Tiger Woods dragging his decrepit body and rusty game across the cut line for another major weekend. Brendan hails the performance as one that will stick with him for awhile. In contrast to that inspiring show was Rory McIlroy, who is in Andy’s sights after a wholly mediocre round that put him five shots out of the lead. Contender or Pretender gets into the elite talent of Will Zalatoris, who will probably not boot this one away with a high round and will need to be caught. Justin Thomas is the prime candidate to do so, and both Andy and Brendan talk about how they’re coming around on him. There’s a LIV rumors segment around UPS dropping Westy and Oosty, and their top exec bailing after Greg Norman’s screwups. They close with some thoughts on the course conditions, players being angry about the sand and slow greens, and reviews of the Mannigcast alternate feed.
Thursday at the PGA: KVV joins to assess “housecats” and create a new taxonomy
Well it’s a unique Thursday episode after the first round of the PGA Championship, where ESPN’s Kevin Van Valkenburg is on the ground and writing insightful and reported articles. Andy and Brendan do not use his time to get into any of those substantive matters, but rather, as the originator of the “housecat” term to describe (maybe pejoratively) a player, to classify golfers into different categories of the cat species. Which player is the screeching alley cat? Who’s the jungle cat that’s been in captivity too long? Who’s the kitten sipping milk from a saucer? The episode finishes with a Precision Pro Flashback Friday segment on “Tempo Raymondo” or “Fat Raymond,” the 1982 PGA Championship winner at Southern Hills.
PGA Preview: Tiger feeling it, Rory’s drought, and the cost of one’s thirst
It’s another major week, and one that has both Brendan and Andy buzzing thanks to a great venue with a host of player storylines that could come to fruition. But first, an Alex Cejka chat. Then they get to Tiger, who was in full form at his press conference and looks like he’s feeling himself and physically much improved. Justin Thomas taking up pitchforks with the fans about beer prices is also addressed, as well as his chances to win and whether it’s time to put up or shut up at the majors. There’s the usual pre-major segment on favorite tee times, and some not-so-favorite groups. Rory McIlroy, Jordan Spieth, and Scottie Scheffler’s chances are all also discussed, before some picks are made. The LIV chatter is also covered, from the PGA’s updated stance via Seth Waugh to Rickie’s surprising moment of candidness that created some news and if it means anything for the marketing darling.
Phil’s PGA absence, Tiger’s and Bryon’s?! arrival, and the Craig Ranch Massacre
This Monday episode begins with tales of Andy’s attempt to fill his POD before an upcoming move. Then it’s over to someone who is not on the move, namely Phil Mickelson, who will not be re-appearing to public life to defend his PGA Championship. Brendan and Andy discuss how bad it must be in Phil-ville to not defend his title, and the prospects of a return in the safe cocoon of LIV Golf. Someone who is in Tulsa is Tiger Woods, and this episode argues for why this is his best chance at a major, not the Old Course. Also apparently playing this PGA is Bryson, fresh off hand surgery but still whaling away and trying to go. The Byron Nelson recap focuses on the Husky Boy’s triumph, and debates whether Spieth is or is not a house cat anymore. Lexi Thompson is the subject of a drive-by, but the Champions Tour is not! They close with a debate/drama about a rules quirk at the U.S. Am Four Ball.
PGA Tour denies LIV waivers while Greg Norman flops to and fro
This is a somewhat different SGS episode focusing on a singular story, diving right into the eventful week in the continuing drama between the PGA Tour and the disruptor league, LIV Golf. Brendan and Andy begin with the Tour’s denial of waiver requests to play the London event, and what that may have wrought on Tour in the immediate future, like this summer. Greg Norman’s debacle of a week is dissected after some flippant rationalizations for horrific murders. They ponder who would have been a better choice to head up this Saudi effort, and whether it’s not too late to find new leadership. There’s ample criticism for LIV’s bumbling efforts, but also for the Tour’s response, especially as it relates to creating discipline on the PGA Tour University front. They close with a few thoughts on the likely legal battle that is coming and whether we’re about to have the last “normal week” on the PGA Tour for the foreseeable future.
The PGA gets a “Manningcast” while LIV gets nothing
This Wednesday episode begins with an NBA Playoffs minute after Andy’s trip north to take in the Bucks-Celtics. On golf, Bio Kim gets a shoutout for his first win after the bird suspension. Then they begin by diving into the schedule for the week, starting at the Ranch, Craig T. Nelson Ranch. There’s reaction to a strong field in Dallas after weeks of meh on the Tour. There’s also scoffing at players being “ready” for the PGA, and an event of the week battle that includes the U.S. Four Ball. Some one-and-done picks reignite further and redundant Spieth debates. There is great fascination with the Euro Tour event in Belgium, which boasts quite an eclectic field. In news, they discuss ESPN rolling out a “Manningcast” with Joe Buck for the PGA Championship and LIV Golf apparently giving away the rights to its first event likely to be broadcast on YouTube.
The Homa ascent, Sergio’s LIV Golf tantrum, and a Keegan defense
It’s a punchy Monday episode full of energy after a Sunday spent with moms. Andy and Brendan get into the test of TPC Potomac against a middling field. Then it’s on to media darling and 4-time winner Max Homa, his perspective, and how the expectations get raised from here. There’s also an unexpected segment defending Keegan Bradley, a frequent punching bag. Sergio Garcia’s latest outburst is dissected, with a focus on what it means for LIV Golf taking on the temperamental Spaniard. This leads to further discussion about LIV, its latest recruits, and a scoop about the number of releases requested for the London event and the cheeky end-around cited. The Pissbear’s redemption story is covered as is a strong week on the Social Security Tour. Finally, they close with some good words about the Baton Boy.
LIV incursions, and Shane Ryan on his Ryder Cup book and the match’s future
This Friday episode begins with some questions on who asked for a Robert Allenby image rehabilitation tour. Then Brendan and Andy get to the latest on LIV, notably Westy Island sinking into the sea (this was recorded PRE-SERGIO, which will be addressed on Monday). There’s also a discussion of the weird PGL memo that was sent out to the world. Andy has some thoughts on Matt Wolff’s struggles and first-round lead at TPC Potomac. Then they’re joined by Shane Ryan, whose book on the Ryder Cup will come out next week (pre-order here). They get into a wide range of interesting and amusing topics related to the matches, from its future prospects, the PGA Tour getting involved on the Euro side via the strategic alliance, Phil’s bencing at Whistling Straits, and some of the biggest surprises in researching and writing the book. Thanks to Shane for his time.
US Open media day, A Rory contradiction, and Shark tales about Phil’s comments
This Wednesday episode begins with some Andy and Brendan notes from their day at The Country Club in Brookline, site of this June’s U.S. Open. They discuss the tee sheet snafu that left Andy without a home, and relay a mini-primer about the course and how it might show for the national championship. There’s a potential big flagstick energy dilemma for the USGA. Then it’s on to the shhhedule for the week, which prompts a take on the self-contradictions of Rory McIlroy and his new contract extension with his equipment manufacturer. News closes with Greg Norman talking about the immediate damage Phil Mickelson’s comments did to the imminent launch plans for the Saudi league back in February.
Use Golf Facts accuses Tiger of tainting the PGA, Rahm scratches a W in Mexico
It’s a first-of-the-month recording, which immediately puts Andy in a good mood for this Monday recap. First, however, Brendan begins with a Sunday morning wake-up to golf facts being shared far and wide. This time, there’s an accusation that the PGA, Southern Hills, and Tiger are in cahoots to make it an inequitable major championship. This leads to a somewhat more serious discussion about the post-Masters “Now what?” part of Tiger’s comeback and how competitive he might be. Then it’s on to results from the weekend, starting with the LPGA event at Palos Verdes, hitting on Marina Alex’s victory, Lydia Ko’s amusing honesty, and the course. On the PGA Tour, they praise the setup guys as well as Jon Rahm, who did not have his best stuff but scratched out a W against a super stinky field in Mexico.
The Thicc Boi Brigade gets a new recruit, LIV’s marketing gets worse, and Jesper tales
This Friday episode begins with new video of Phil Mickelson surfacing, and the close inspection of it that followed and what that might have yielded about his playing plans and fitness. This dovetails into a chat about reports he’s signed on for all 8 LIV Golf events, and if his career is forever debased by the potential legal fight that might come. That transitions into a dissection of more details about the Liv plans, including some horrible marketing slogans on their website and highly-priced ticket packages for events the details of which remain quite scant. There’s also a review of the near driving range fight between Kevin Na and Grayson Murray, with a separate plea for Na to be thrown off the tour. Flashback Friday focuses on the catnip of the week, Jesper Parnevik’s new look, recalling some of his great successes and eccentricities, like eating volcanic sand, during his rise in the 90s. It features several amusing Jesper quotes about his process.
Mickelson sorta surfaces, LIV heads to Trump Doral, and a dumpy field in Mexico
This Wednesday episode is full of pep, beginning with a concern Brendan raises about Andy using a ridiculous peppy phrase in an email, which prompts an even more ridiculous explanation for the use of said phrase. Then they move to signs of life from Phil Mickelson, whose agent released a statement about keeping “options open” for two upcoming majors and one Saudi event. They discuss the sadness of this denouement and what the rest of his career could look like. Then it’s on to LIV golf, which apparently has 15 top 100 players committed to their opening event in London. But the segment is more about how the entire operation, save for funding, is just a sh*tshow that’s hard to get excited about right now and what a blown opportunity it feels like. They also banter about the finale of this year’s LIV schedule reportedly going to Trump Doral. Schedule for the week closes out this episode, with some cool intel on the LPGA venue and less enthusiasm for a crappy field in Mexico on the PGA Tour.
The Xander conundrum, a Coetzee Zone threat, and ClubCorp Classic thoughts
Brendan returns for this Monday episode, which begins with a quick popping of the Zurich Classic before diving into an extended debate about the resume of Xander Schauffele, who added a two-man victory to that CV on Sunday. Some Billy quotes about wind in NOLA are also put up for further examination. Nasa Hataoka’s runaway win in LA is duly praised, while Pablo Larrazabal’s victory is examined vis-a-vis the Coetzee Zone. On the Champions Tour, the Club Corp Classic, where Tony Romo played as a celebrity, is discussed. Also, that title sponsor’s rebrand into something called “Invited” is reviewed before news hits on Greg Norman announcing an intention to play The Open at St. Andrews.
DJ Pie and Walk Up Music
No Laying Up's DJ Piehowski joins the pod to fill in for Brendan who remains on vacation both physically and mentally. DJ and Andy discuss the Zurich and how it kind of stinks. DJ does point out the trace back to Zurich's decision to implement walk up music and the game of golf's explosive growth since. Andy then gets into the walk up music selections for 2022. Enjoy, Brendan hopefully will be back on Monday and thank you again to DJ Pie for his time and patience.
Where is Oklahoma? Sean Martin attempts to clear the air
With Brendan on vacation, the PGA Tour’s lead editor Sean Martin joins Andy to discuss the week in golf. The two start with a rousing conversation on Sean’s parenting tactics before getting into the Zurich Classic and the notable pairings. They then can't resist having a lengthy discussion of Ben An and Carl Yuan and how certain teams may have come together. The conversation then turns to the LPGA Tour's Los Angeles swing before settling on Trevor Immelman’s assistant captain picks for the Presidents Cup. Thank you to Sean for filling in for the big guy.
Spicy thoughts on Spieth, the Frittelli penalty, and chum
Andy and Brendan are back on the horse! This Monday episode is slightly delayed, but it’s here and what it lacks in substance, it makes up for in amusement, hopefully. They begin with many thoughts on Jordan Spieth, the win at Harbour Town, his resume, and some ridiculous comps to Hall of Famers, both good and bad. Other Heritage thoughts revolve around Dylan Frittelli’s penalty for hitting a ball out of the trees and enhanced scrutiny on Patrick Cantlay. The results segment leads us down the path of discovery on KFT pro Pontus Nyholm, now nicknamed the Pontoon Boat. News hits on Bryson’s surgery, the Shark “chumming” the waters for LIV with some highly-ranked amateurs, and DL3 letting it slip that Phil may now be on the sidelines for the Bethpage Ryder Cup captaincy.
Bubba headed to Saudi’s LIV and Masters clean-up with Kyle Porter
This Wednesday episode was delayed as Andy and Brendan get back from Augusta trying to pick up the pieces, which Andy is still in the process of doing. So Kyle Porter of CBS joins to add some of his perspective from his week on the ground at Augusta National, focusing on the winner, runner-up, Tiger, and other odds and ends from his notebook. Then they get to the shhhedule for the week, where Kyle saddles Andy with a one-and-done pick and there’s an amusing tale about Kyle not getting to play Pasatiempo, site of this week’s Western Intercollegiate. They close with news, which is on the Shark, Greg Norman, resurfacing with more comments about his impending league and the report of five committed names, including Bubba Watson.
Sunday at the Draddy Cabin: Scheffler’s win, Rory’s charge, and Tiger’s power
Masters week comes to a close at the Draddy Cabin in Augusta, where Andy and Brendan record one last time on Sunday’s conclusion to the Masters. They begin with Scottie Scheffler’s stroll to the green jacket. They discuss how he got it done, what it means for his future, and observations from the ground. The power of following Tiger as he closed out his week is also relayed. Rory’s charge, and if it means anything beyond a nice moment, is debated at length. Tyrrell Hatton’s searing critiques of the course are addressed. There’s a chat on the laser focus of ANGC and the pleasures of a phone-less week, and many more amusing odds and ends, including an encounter with the commish, during an emptying of the notebook. Thanks to all of you for supporting and listening all week, and B. Draddy for making our stay possible.
Saturday at the Draddy Cabin: Scheffler steers it in, Tiger fades, and Augusta swings
There are 18 holes left to go at the 2022 Masters, and a giddy Andy and Brendan set things up for Sunday from the Draddy Cabin in Augusta. They review the third round happenings at ANGC, where Scottie Scheffler got shaky on the second nine but steered it in to lead by three at the 54-hole mark. They react to some of the continued 15th hole debate, with Andy re-telling a few stories from the ground at that spot. There’s delight in a Horschel-Hatton featured group pairing for Sunday, disappointment about a few faders, and disposal of the debate about a Tiger WD.
Friday at the Draddy Cabin: The magic is back at the 15th
It’s Friday night in Augusta and Andy and Brendan talk Masters at the midpoint from their Draddy Cabin before a big night out on the town. They begin, unintentionally, with Tiger Woods -- the made cut, the “juice,” and a person simply relishing playing a Masters, regardless of current physical fitness or past accomplishment. There’s ample discussion on the leader, Scottie Scheffler, who expertly navigated the par-5s. And that leads to a discussion on the 15th, playing to a momentous decision to go or hang back thanks to some wind and a new tee box. There’s also plenty of fun had with Hudson’s equipment malfunction, Billy’s baton twirls, and Thicc Boi’s meltdown.
Thursday at the Draddy Cabin: Tiger returns
Andy and Brendan are live at the Draddy Cabin in Augusta for this first round reaction episode at the Masters. They begin with Tiger, hailing his return as a momentous day in golf history. There’s awe of his round of 71, but realistic assessments about how it looked as others got swept up in the hoopla. They contemplate what it might mean for the rest of the tournament. There’s a report on the conditions and course from the ground, with a theory about subair for patron areas outside the ropes. It was also a good day for the Saudis, with leaderboard representation and honorary starter representation. There’s reaction to Rory’s underwhelming round, concern about airborne interruptions, and an MC segment that focuses on another disappointing showing from JT at ANGC.
Wednesday from the Draddy Cabin: A Masters preview
Andy and Brendan are live together in Augusta at the Draddy Cabin for what will be the start of a daily run of episodes. This one is a preview, which unintentionally begins with some disgruntlement about certain environmental conditions and some deep thoughts about Rory McIlroy’s focus after he made an impression on Andy in his press conference. Then there’s a Tiger chat, hitting on his chances to make the cut, the absolute Nike disaster, and the overlooked aspect of what might make this return slightly easier. There’s a wide-ranging chat on the course changes, getting deep into the alterations at 11, the new tee at 15, the changes at 3 green, and others. It features comments, both positive and critical, from some of the players who paraded through the press center and reaction to their reactions. There’s also some great Larry Mize intel before signing off with picks to win for all the gambling diehards out there.
Tiger arrives in Augusta, Did ANWA kill the Dinah, and Kupcho’s major moment
Andy and Brendan are reunited in person at the B. Draddy Cabin in Augusta as they prepare for a full week of podcasting from the Masters, which starts with a few solid minutes of car talk following a mighty struggle trying to figure out how to put the top up on the convertible. On golf, they begin with some immediate reactions to Jennifer Kupcho’s winning the first major of the year and the first of her career. This prompts a discussion on the tension between ANWA and the Chevron Championship, nee Dinah Shore, which Christina Kim was quick to point the finger at Augusta National for helping kill off in Southern California. They ponder whether ANWA is now the most high profile and prestigious event in all of women’s golf, and what it can do for the women’s game on the whole, even with the negative side effects of some format issues and the schedule conflict. The Valero is mostly panned for a lackluster leaderboard before news closes on Tiger Woods’s arrival to make a “game time decision” for the Masters.
Masters intel and memories with 2008 winner Trevor Immelman
This Friday episode features a discussion with Trevor Immelman, a Masters winner and currently an analyst with NBC/Golf Channel and CBS, calling both the Augusta National Women’s Amateur this weekend and the Masters next week. Trevor provides insight on how Augusta National has evolved in recent decades, tells a story about Gary Player making a hopeless request with Clifford Roberts, sets the scene of Champions Dinners past, recalls the pressures and particulars of his win with Tiger finishing second behind him, and some of the shots that “make you feel like a kid again” around the course. Thanks to Trevor for his time!
Tracking Tiger’s jet and Masters plans, and ANWA with ESPN’S Kevin Van Valkenburg
SGS is graced by the presence of ESPN Senior Writer Kevin Van Valkenburg for this Wednesday episode, which begins with the hysteria around flight tracking Tiger Woods’ plane into Augusta. Brendan and Kevin begin by assessing the likelihood we see Tiger play the Masters, how good or bad that might go if he does, and the current contrast in standing between Tiger and Phil Mickelson. The exile of Phil is also discussed with KVV, along with a few other pre-Masters storylines. Then it’s on to the first major of the year, the newly named Chevron Championship, nee ANA or Dinah Shore. They discuss the abandonment of that event’s history with the upcoming move to Texas. The third Augusta National Women’s Amateur is also previewed, with some format quibbles raised and players to monitor. The Valero is also noted before a fun sign-off with KVV recalling an excerpt on Lee Westwood discussing his favorite book.
Is getting to World No. 1 now equivalent to a major, and Tiger walks
This Monday episode begins with reaction to the WGC Match Play finale, where Scottie Scheffler ascended to OWGR No. 1. Andy and Brendan consider whether this achievement, in light of Scheffler’s emotional reaction, has gained stature approaching a major win among younger players. They discuss several other match play quibbles and delights from the weekend in Austin, including Kevin Kisner's ability to compete at a place where he can use the slopes. Masters Fact of the Day hits on the time a patron jumped in the pond at the 16th hole, and also a story about Andy bringing some Elijah Craig bourbon on a flight with him this weekend. News is more story time, with tales of a Euro Tour robbery on the road in South Africa and listeners putting “Zatch” to use out in the real world. They close with rumblings of Tiger walking rounds out at Medalist this past week and what it might mean for a competitive start in April.
Bryson’s break, Aimpoint angst, Sun sleeve scoop, and a Tiger Flashback
It’s Friday, so this episode begins with a bit of whimsy on some intel from Austin about the practice attire of a certain local. Then Andy and Brendan whip through some early impressions and controversies from the WGC Match Play, touching on Keegan’s excruciating aimpoint routine, Paul Casey’s lucrative WD, Reed blasting it into the line drive section, and the inconsistent rulings on a sprinkler head with red spray paint on it at the 13th. Masters Fact of the Day includes a book recommendation as well as a mid-century review of Augusta National. Flashback Friday goes back to the start of this century, when Tiger was at his peak powers but a scuffling “rotund” opponent got the best of him in Match Play.
Is Mickelson canceled, fleeing Westy Island, and Bryson’s hamate bone
This Wednesday episode begins with troubled times on Westy Island, where things may need to be on an official pause due to some disconcerting Twitter activity. Then it’s on to the cancellation, or purported cancellation, of Phil Mickelson, most recently out of the Masters, where he’s played for almost 30 consecutive years. Andy and Brendan discuss Phil’s forgotten betrayal that keeps getting lost in all the shouting about political correctness and cancellations, with an unexpected comp to the movie The Rock. The shhhedule for the week begins with the WGC Match Play, with some praise and critiques for the current format and schedule. There’s a breakdown of pools where beef and tension could bubble to the surface, and reaction to the Thicc Boi staying in the field with his broken hamate and torn labrum. News closes with the announcement that Oakland Hills will be firmly back hosting a bevy of USGA championships for the next 30 years.
Bermuda Burns, a marketing theory on the FedEx Cup, and Greg Norman’s media blitz
This episode is a victory Monday of sorts for Andy, who went out on limb with his one and done pick this week at the Valspar. He and Brendan get into the final round in Tampa, but not without first discussing the theory presented on the broadcast that the playoff is the time when all the pressure is gone. Davis Riley’s eventful round is also chronicled, including having to wait on the 18th tee to hit while the player in front of him stepped off his wedge yardage. There’s also discussion about the anti-backboarding boundary nettings that came into play. The Elijah Craig Masters fact of the day is an astonishing if not shocking one that has both Andy and Brendan marveling. News touches on Greg Norman’s media blitz and some of the WGC Match Play dropouts, notably Rory and Phil.
Saudi’s LIV Golf has a schedule & courses, and USGA comments further on distance
This Friday episode reviews a few days full of significant news both on the disruptor league attempts to the PGA Tour and the USGA’s latest update on its distance plans. Andy and Brendan begin first with a solemn note on the horrific tragedy involving the University of the Southwest golf team. From there, they discuss the release of LIV’s schedule and the stinky roster of courses. There’s also a rumor about another massive signing bonus that leads to further debate about the progress that the Saudi cash could make once/if this thing gets up and running. The PGL’s re-emergence in the form of a report on a proposal sent to Rory McIlroy is also addressed, and they close with the distance issue and the signals this latest USGA and R&A update sent.
Snake pits and overcooked storyline cliches, and also Henrik Stenson
If you need gambling advice for the Valspar Championship, this is the show for you. Andy and Brendan spend one whole minute offering their one and done picks for Tampa. Around that, however, is chatter about brackets, generally, the sponsor exemptions in Tampa, the story of Luke Guthrie, proud Illinois product, and the whether the designer of Copperhead, Larry Packard, is related to Hewlett Packard. This devolves into a discussion on printers and the scam of ink replacement. Also included in this episode is the Elijah Craig Masters Fact of the Day, which leads to a chat on the rental car situation for the upcoming Masters trip. News closes with Henrik Stenson as the new Euro skipper for the Ryder Cup and what that means, if anything, for the Saudi league.
Cam’s breakout, Saturday’s massacre, Redesigning the 17th, and requiem for Gold Boy
This Monday night episode reacts to the wild, interminable 2022 Players Championship. Andy and Brendan begin with Cameron Smith’s biggest career win to date, and exactly how he got it done with perfection in some areas and, well, some relatability in others. There are not a lot of kind words for conservative Paul Casey, even though he did catch a crap break. The drama around Viktor Hovland confronting Daniel Berger over his drop at 16 is also reviewed. Anirban Lahiri is praised as the anti-Paul/Pat Casey. Then they get to Saturday, taking on the complaints about an inequitable draw on the tee sheet and an inequitable hole in the island 17th. They revel in the type of shotmaking it produced and praise the journey that may have produced a less-than-ideal leaderboard come Sunday. At the end, Gold Boy is given one last round of applause, while Collin Morikawa gets a critique, and the topic of redesigning of the 17th is given one more pass.
Questions about “Gold Boy”
It’s Friday and where else would Andy and Brendan begin if not for Gold Boy. That’s our sweet little mixed reality boy that came into our lives prancing around the screen on Thursday at The Players Championship. The plan was not to talk about this mixed reality stunt until late in the show, but it gobbles up the first 15 minutes or so as there are a number of questions and concerns surrounding Gold Boy, who will apparently be with us all weekend. There is actual golf talk, of course, even with minimal golf to assess after a rain-soaked Thursday. They discuss the weather for the rest of the week, the “challenge” of spin control, Pat Reed flipping off the hole, and whether there could be a good side of the draw given the forecast. Will Zalatoris’s putting stroke is also discussed. Precision Pro Flashback Friday focuses on a prior Players Championship when the wind and weather wreaked havoc on scorecards, as may happen on this Saturday, but Lanny Wadkins turned in one of the all-time performances.
Monahan on legacy vs. leverage, Phil discipline, and PGA Tour gambling questions
This Wednesday episode serves as a Players Championship preview, but there’s not much on the instant event until late in the second half of the recording. Andy and Brendan begin by reacting to the rare Jay Monahan press conference, one of only a couple per year, in which the commissioner was peppered with questions about Phil Mickelson, who may or may not be suspended, the rival league threat, further transparency, and the The Players cufflinks. Jon Rahm’s comments on course setup, Rory’s comments on suspensions becoming public, and JT’s response to a question about Russia are also discussed. Player picks are made, and there’s weather talk about what’s coming the next five days. News hits on a lengthy Golf Channel segment on gambling with the PGA Tour exec on gaming, and a report on some changes made to Augusta National ahead of next month’s Masters.
Bay Hill bromides, Rory’s ‘punch drunk,’ and ample Pillow Talk
It’s a Victory Monday of sorts at the Shotgun Start, which begins with some college basketball chatter. From there, it’s quickly into Bay Hill, where Scottie Scheffler is given his due as the new No. 1 player in the world. But the primary entree in the API reaction is on the course setup and high scores, reacting to Rory McIlroy’s critiques and some concerns that more players may start skipping it because it’s too hard a punch to the face. Andy and Brendan work through this in a back and forth, delineating between “so hard it’s boring,” firmness that’s interesting, and the dartboard of other weeks, with a few devil’s advocate challenges about the U.S. Open at more venerated courses. Billy Boy’s big week is also covered, as is the BFB’s honorable WD, the repeated Pillow Talk on the broadcast, and the Arnie hagiography. Jin Young Ko is praised, the PR Open is questioned, and the Champions Tour is acknowledged. News hits on Bryson’s WD from THE PLAYERS.
PIP reactions and KVV with #FBF on Phil Mickelson’s deluded pro baseball tryout
ESPN Senior Writer Kevin Van Valkenburg joins this early “Friday” episode with some delightful insights on golf news past and present. The trio begin with reaction to the final PIP results announcement, from Tiger deciding to poke Phil about his premature celebration to Bubba Watson sneaking in the backdoor top 10 to the Hideki omission. At Bay Hill, Rory’s comments on starting to welcome Phil back into the tent and forgiving him are inspected closely. The Masters Fact of the Day makes its triumphant return as does Flashback Friday. For this one, KVV requested Andy and Brendan come in cold as he takes them on a magical ride re-telling the mid-career boredom endeavor of Phil Mickelson believing, and actually trying, to pitch in high professional baseball, getting a tryout with the AAA Toledo Mudhens with begrudging approval from their major league affiliate Detroit Tigers. It’s a solid 20 minutes of cackling at some of the truly amazing quotes around the experiment that KVV dug up, so thanks to him for his time and contribution to the episode.